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p739 ratio

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SpacePhoenix
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by SpacePhoenix »

A big difference between RM and the other couriers is that the other couriers all offer 1hr time slots and for some once the driver gets within a certain number of deliveries before your own, you can see where they are on a map and also how many deliveries are remaining before yours.
pieoftheday
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Re: p739 ratio

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I was able to track an Amazon delivery yesterday, apparently I was 4 delivery stops away, the map showed the driver just 100yards away, it took 20 minutes.......
Kenfandango
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by Kenfandango »

I'd say a key difference between us and Amazon/Evri/etc is that the majority of customers know RM will keep it safe, not chuck it on a doorstep or take it to a depot you aren't allowed to collect from. Amazon's 1 hour time slots are useless when they come through 45 minutes before the hour starts and you're still at work.

Worst 739 experience I had was a neighbour volunteered to take it in, next day found out from the customer that the neighbours had taken it and promptly gone to Australia for 4 weeks!

In answer to the question, if I'm on a rural that I know I can bring back no parcels... Urban areas it's about half some days
Hyrrokkin
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Re: p739 ratio

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If they are not in then card and go...no neighbours or safe place unless specified
postmanpleb
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Re: p739 ratio

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I talked to area rep last week, who told me about a conversation he recently had with the area manager. The long & short of it is that Royal Mail are going to give us the authority to doorstep parcels. His reply to area manager, there had better be no come back. Maybe this is where we are heading!


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SpacePhoenix
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Re: p739 ratio

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postmanpleb wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 17:48
I talked to area rep last week, who told me about a conversation he recently had with the area manager. The long & short of it is that Royal Mail are going to give us the authority to doorstep parcels. His reply to area manager, there had better be no come back. Maybe this is where we are heading!


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If that's the case, the CWU need to get that in writing from RM ready for when the s**t his the fan with an increase in complaints
crimson king
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by crimson king »

TopperGas wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:44
pieoftheday wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:23
clashcityrocker wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:03
pieoftheday wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:49

Bollox to those silly door bells, knock on the door, no answer, card em,it really isnt an issue
A lot of them work by motion sensor.
Whether you use them or not is irrelevant.
Oh yes I've had them 'leave it on step mate' nah mate, I've put a card through, dont fxxkin order if you're not going to be in
The problems is when they say that to Amazon or EVRI they'll just leave it, we're probably the only delivery co. which doesn't, unless the sender is insisting on a signature.

What I can't get my head around is why RM don't insist the customers either confirm they'll be in or leave a Safeplace option, probably out of 100 packets/parcels I deliver a day less than 1% have a confirmed Safeplace option.
Conversely, the problem is that Amazon or EVRI presumably won't have to face a clipboard wielding manager who's determined to take you down the conduct route for denial of receipt...all because your face doesnt fit with them, you didn't take your lapsing and cut off on that summer Saturday in 2018 and they've been waiting for revenge ever since :roll:

Exaggerated for comedic effect... but not by much...
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sindba
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by sindba »

I bring back very few on my rural. 1 or 2 a day, max.
Marshamp11
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by Marshamp11 »

postmanpleb wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 17:48
I talked to area rep last week, who told me about a conversation he recently had with the area manager. The long & short of it is that Royal Mail are going to give us the authority to doorstep parcels. His reply to area manager, there had better be no come back. Maybe this is where we are heading!


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Excellent, me and my Mrs have never paid for anything thats been left on the doorstep.
silver_fox
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by silver_fox »

if they want us to leave everything then a safeplace or neighbour option should be compulsory when ordering . then a photo as evidence should be enough to prove weve done our bit.
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Re: p739 ratio

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clashcityrocker wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:03
A lot of them work by motion sensor.
Whether you use them or not is irrelevant.
They're essentially a phonecall foisted upon you, but it's only a conversation if you participate. I don't.

P739s on my current and previous walk are about the same: 10 to 20%. No doorstepping. Deliver To Neighbour is time-dependent (so rarely), and sensible safeplace instructions are rare to begin with (no, I am not leaving it in the blue bin on bin day).
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TopperGas
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Re: p739 ratio

Post by TopperGas »

Mr Rush wrote:
10 Oct 2022, 21:39
clashcityrocker wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:03
A lot of them work by motion sensor.
Whether you use them or not is irrelevant.
They're essentially a phonecall foisted upon you, but it's only a conversation if you participate. I don't.

P739s on my current and previous walk are about the same: 10 to 20%. No doorstepping. Deliver To Neighbour is time-dependent (so rarely), and sensible safeplace instructions are rare to begin with (no, I am not leaving it in the blue bin on bin day).
The issue with Rings etc is you've zero proof of the call taking place, so if the customer does say leave a parcel behind the bin etc and then submits a DoR you've no proof you were told to leave it.
Victor_NG17
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Re: p739 ratio

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Hyrrokkin wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 16:52
If they are not in then card and go...no neighbours or safe place unless specified
This ^^
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Re: p739 ratio

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Most days it’s zero.