The "How was your day" thread.

Sir Henry · Post by **Sir Henry** » 30 Jun 2020, 21:27

Blameworthy accident due to fatigue due to no break.
Anyone EVER had this happen? Would appear to be very hard to prove.
In all honesty it all seems to be just so much bullshit from the mouths of the paid liars that make up the management.
Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 30 Jun 2020, 21:38

Sir Henry wrote:Blameworthy accident due to fatigue due to no break.
Anyone EVER had this happen? Would appear to be very hard to prove.
In all honesty it all seems to be just so much bullshit from the mouths of the paid liars that make up the management.
Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

More than likely would be easy pickings now under the Health & Safety at Work Act. The DOM would deny giving permission for all the breaks to be taken at the end of the shift.

Given that GLS might get split away from RM, RM will be losing money then (AFAIK GLS is the only part of RM that isn't losing money) so they're going to want to make savings. Anyone who could be conduct coded will be easy pickings for savings

Sir Henry · Post by **Sir Henry** » 30 Jun 2020, 22:06

Top screw might deny it but it would be pretty easy, if it's anything like our place, to show that taking breaks at the end of the shift is widespread and taken with management knowledge and with a paper trail of signing out times and overtime payments.

Outside of some snide comment from a screw designed to warn someone not to affect their bonus by reporting an accident, I've never seen anyone use this.

Other experiences are, as ever, available.

Ren Hoëk · Post by **Ren Hoëk** » 30 Jun 2020, 23:14

SpacePhoenix wrote:
Ren Hoëk wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Ren Hoëk wrote:Give it a rest. Our break is two hours into our shift at 8am. Its an agreement between me and my DOM so no, It doesn't apply to me. He knows when he's looking at the actuals to add 40 mins on to mine. I also log the extra on to the paper register. During this time we have come up with different ways of working.
The DOM might know but the bean counter higher up the food chain won't know, they'll just see someone finishing before there start time and potentially hours that can be taken out.

Ren Hoëk wrote:If I were to have an accident they would be hard pressed to say fatigue played a part when the fatiguing part of the day is no different to anyone else's. Why have you two latched on to that? You sound just like the bullying assholes im talking about. Why does it bother you so much?
If you don't take your break and you have an accident as a result of fatigue you'll be up for a blameworthy and unless it's in writing the DOM will simply deny giving you permission to take your break at the end of the shift. You'd potentially be up for a conduct code charge and in the current environment you'd probably be sacked
Your first point has been covered by someone else already and as to why that argument just doesn't fly at the moment. I also covered your second point already. It is irrelevant. So why do YOU care so much about it? Why have you latched on to that aspect of my original post and not the main point of it being that our colleagues are just as responsible for the bullying that goes on in RM.
The second point is very relevant. Don't come complaining on the forum when you have an accident from fatigue and potentially get sacked

Give up. I say its irrelevant because i have already covered it. My walking time (The Tiring bit) is exactly the same as everyone else's. How could they tell me I was fatigued? Iv also never heard of it happening. As for your obvious concern for my physical health. I complete my duty and then get home and go for a 5 mile run. I think il be ok for the time being.

FirstPost · Post by **FirstPost** » 01 Jul 2020, 17:53

today was the first time in a while that there has been enough work to take me to my time

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 02 Jul 2020, 20:31

Any info about England posties being able to use loos in the pubs from Saturday, when they open up again, or do we still need to get back to the depot?

PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 02 Jul 2020, 20:45

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Any info about England posties being able to use loos in the pubs from Saturday, when they open up again, or do we still need to get back to the depot?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I would've thought that it's down to the individual pub to allow posties to use their restroom facilities from Saturday onward.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 02 Jul 2020, 21:07

PostmanBitesDog wrote:
IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Any info about England posties being able to use loos in the pubs from Saturday, when they open up again, or do we still need to get back to the depot?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I would've thought that it's down to the individual pub to allow posties to use their restroom facilities from Saturday onward.

Some pubs might decide to keep their toilets shut

Grumpyoldmailman · Post by **Grumpyoldmailman** » 02 Jul 2020, 22:08

SpacePhoenix wrote:Some pubs might decide to keep their toilets shut

I better not break the seal when I goto the pub next.

PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 02 Jul 2020, 22:53

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PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 05 Jul 2020, 01:09

Today in the UK:

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norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 06 Jul 2020, 17:39

SpacePhoenix wrote:If you don't take your break and you have an accident as a result of fatigue you'll be up for a blameworthy and unless it's in writing the DOM will simply deny giving you permission to take your break at the end of the shift. You'd potentially be up for a conduct code charge and in the current environment you'd probably be sacked

What is the typical process that happens when someone has an van crash/accident. I know accidents are fairly common in our depot and I hear about them and see people that drive get taken off driving and put on walking rounds.

Could anyone go through the process for me, just wondered what happens after you come back to the depot and face the line managers / DOM, cheers...

PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 12 Jul 2020, 16:00

Judging by the collective stupidity of Royal Mail managers, it wouldn't be surprising to see this sign on display in a Royal Mail delivery office:

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clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 13 Jul 2020, 13:16

Two hours first letter to last letter.
Passed one of my colleagues who had finished at 10.20.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 13 Jul 2020, 15:07

Just another regular day with 2-3 days worth of mail today. Can't remember the last light day we had.