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LTB 183/18 - PAY AND FOUR PILLARS AGREEMENT - NATIONAL BALLOT RESULT

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LTB 183/18 - PAY AND FOUR PILLARS AGREEMENT – NATIONAL BALLOT RESULT

No. 183/18

28th March 2018



Dear Colleague,

PAY AND FOUR PILLARS AGREEMENT – NATIONAL BALLOT RESULT

I am pleased to announce that CWU members have returned a resounding YES vote on the Pay and Four Pillars Agreement negotiated with the employer Royal Mail Group.

The result of the Ballot, as certified by the independent Scrutineer, is attached and is as follows:-

62,417 voted : 55.1% Turnout


Result No. Votes % of Valid Vote
YES 56,177 90.1%
NO 6,167 9.9%

Also attached is a copy of the CWU’s Press Release.

On behalf of the CWU negotiating team and the Postal Executive, I would like to thank our CWU Representatives at all levels and our Branches for the outstanding work they have carried out throughout this campaign which has enabled us to achieve this historical Agreement which will change the future and afford our members employment, standard of living and retirement security.

Branches/Representatives are asked to ensure that the attached result is circulated immediately to CWU members in all workplaces.

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely



Terry Pullinger

Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

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LTB 183.18 Attachment 1 – J508 ROV CWU Pay Deal Ballot 2018 280318 http://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-odiukdk-ztkjiuyil-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LTB 183.18 Attachment 2 CWU Press Release http://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-odiukdk-ztkjiuyil-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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oh ffs
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And the turnout of people who bothered to vote??
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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hans solo wrote:oh ffs
You can say that again Hans :d'oh!
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62,417 voted
55.1% Turnout!
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CWU VOTES YES TO PAY AND FOUR PILLARS AGREEMENT

Postal workers have voted overwhelmingly to accept a deal reached in talks with Royal Mail Group
covering pay, pensions and working conditions. Members of the CWU voted by a margin of 9 to 1 in
favour of the deal.

The strong YES vote was secured after a two year campaign by the Union and months of talks with
the employer. A deal was eventually struck in the aftermath of a large strike vote by CWU members
in October 2017 and following the intervention of an independent Mediator.

Commenting on the vote Terry Pullinger, Deputy General Secretary (Postal) of the CWU said:

“The massive vote in favour of the deal reflects the strong degree of membership support for the
Union’s Four Pillars and Pay campaign which has delivered real improvements to our members’
employment and retirement security. The support has delivered a progressive agenda which
confronts the challenges of our time and significantly improves our members’ pay, working hours
and workplace culture, both for current and the future generation of postal workers.

The Agreement also extends the legally binding protections which gives postal workers confidence that the Royal
Mail Group will not be broken up and that protecting the six day Universal Service Obligation (USO)
remains a priority.

Now the Agreement is signed, the hard work begins on ensuring this comprehensive, long term deal
is implemented in full across Royal Mail Group. The CWU hope the degree of support shown by our
members, both in the Industrial Action Ballot and in favour of the deal, reflects the Union’s
determination to deliver all elements of the Agreement and provide our members with employment,
standard of living and retirement security.

The Union is committed to work with Royal Mail to improve industrial relations, deliver better
services and products for customers and safeguard the six day Universal Service Obligation (USO) to
secure the future of this great British institution.”


The CWU General Secretary Dave Ward said: “The overwhelming ballot result is a credit to the whole
union from our negotiators, the postal executive and reps but particularly our members. As a union
we will ensure these standards are maintained and we will force Royal Mail to uphold the terms and
spirit of the Four Pillars Agreement.
This dispute saw the union reach new levels in terms of engaging our members and smashing the
Anti-Trade Union industrial action laws. Ahead of the New Deal for Workers March on 12th May, this
agreement and campaign clearly demonstrates if unions organise, engage and inspire members then
you can and will win.
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

When we had the strike ballot, non-voters were counted as "no" voters.

If non-voters for this agreement were also counted as "no" voters, this result would have been a very narrow win for "no" (~56000 vs ~57000).
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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:When we had the strike ballot, non-voters were counted as "no" voters.

If non-voters for this agreement were also counted as "no" voters, this result would have been a very narrow win for "no" (~56000 vs ~57000).
Careful - it was RM that counted the none voters as "No", applying the same logic that they accept whats on offer by default, it makes it a massive majority for Yes.
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As one of the 6000+ who voted NO this is hardly a ringing endorsement I mean 55% turnout wonder if it had been below 50% would we have another vote? as for 56'000 money grabbing CN9T'S well enjoy your sad lives and don't come here complaining about more work!
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55% Turnout?! That is pretty poor going
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Post by wandle »

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:When we had the strike ballot, non-voters were counted as "no" voters.

If non-voters for this agreement were also counted as "no" voters, this result would have been a very narrow win for "no" (~56000 vs ~57000).
The people who disliked the agreement had a chance to vote against it. Saying ‘well, it’s going to be voted in regardless’ as an argument for not voting is about as logical as the woman who says ‘I want my large takeaway pizza cut into 8 slices, cause I can’t eat 12’...
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Post by labbloke »

k979aaa wrote:As one of the 6000+ who voted NO this is hardly a ringing endorsement I mean 55% turnout wonder if it had been below 50% would we have another vote? as for 56'000 money grabbing CN9T'S well enjoy your sad lives and don't come here complaining about more work!
Not very comradely, is it?
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Post by hans solo »

labbloke wrote:
k979aaa wrote:As one of the 6000+ who voted NO this is hardly a ringing endorsement I mean 55% turnout wonder if it had been below 50% would we have another vote? as for 56'000 money grabbing CN9T'S well enjoy your sad lives and don't come here complaining about more work!
Not very comradely, is it?
totally agree with comment f**k the 90% know a few who come running when they need someone to back them up from now on they are on their own or they can go get help from their 90%
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Post by dvbuk55 »

I think it was a foregone conclusion. Judging from the turnout, apathy killed the vote,ft was spot on you can hardly call a 55% turnout a resounding massive yes vote. I'm sure delivery staff will feel the brunt of this agreement as they have done in the past.
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Post by woofwoof »

I've had 10 texts already asking when do we get the money :arrrghhh