Seniority from PT to FT

[gimba]

Howdy, I've been given the chance to go FT, currently PT 30 hours, but I'd lose my seniority, is this the normal, I'm staying exactly where I am, so how could doing more hours mean I lose my spot? I can't get my head round it

Assuming the same to whoever is #1 and they decided to change to PT, they'd go bottom of the list with 40 years service? Doesn't make sense

[ted_e_bear]

No it's bollocks, seniority is length of service regardless of whatever your contracted hours are.

They might have meant you'll be the least senior full timer maybe,for example if your duties are designated to be either full or part time then you wouldn't be able to choose a duty that's part time in front of a part timer despite them being less senior to you.

I've just had another thought, you say you're staying where you are, are they making your duty full time as well as creating a full time opportunity ? If so then the duty has to be advertised and the most senior applicant will get it.

[postslippete]

Your seniority doesn't change regardless of whether you're full-time or part-time. The only advantage of long service (apart from extra weeks off) is that if vacant duties are advertised then the most senior postie would normally get it.

Unfortunately, most of the ones that were advertised in our office years ago were part-time which put a lot of senior staff from applying for them. That said, most of the part-timers are usually working full-time on overtime anyway.

[Barnacle]

Howdy, I've been given the chance to go FT, currently PT 30 hours, but I'd lose my seniority, is this the normal, I'm staying exactly where I am, so how could doing more hours mean I lose my spot? I can't get my head round it

Assuming the same to whoever is #1 and they decided to change to PT, they'd go bottom of the list with 40 years service? Doesn't make sense

That’s absolute nonsense. Your seniority stays with you. Pretty much the only way to lose your seniority would be to leave and then come back after several months have passed.

[norris9]

Your seniority doesn't change regardless of whether you're full-time or part-time. The only advantage of long service (apart from extra weeks off) is that if vacant duties are advertised then the most senior postie would normally get it.

You get more weeks off for long service? if true, at what year(s) worked does your amount of annual leave days go up?

[kazardaimenu]

They should have it so seniority picks if they want ft or pt contract and then a separate pick to choose a duty. The system that’s currently used involves witchcraft and voodoo.

[qwerty2]

Your seniority doesn't change regardless of whether you're full-time or part-time. The only advantage of long service (apart from extra weeks off) is that if vacant duties are advertised then the most senior postie would normally get it.

You get more weeks off for long service? if true, at what year(s) worked does your amount of annual leave days go up?

20 years - full 6 weeks

[ted_e_bear]

Your seniority doesn't change regardless of whether you're full-time or part-time. The only advantage of long service (apart from extra weeks off) is that if vacant duties are advertised then the most senior postie would normally get it.

You get more weeks off for long service? if true, at what year(s) worked does your amount of annual leave days go up?

I know it's 6 weeks leave after 20 years service, hopefully someone will come on soon and confirm the other times that our leave increases.
Edit...I've just found it in the way forward agreement I assume it's still current.
On entry Four and a half weeks
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 20 years = Six weeks

[norris9]

I know it's 6 weeks leave after 20 years service, hopefully someone will come on soon and confirm the other times that our leave increases.
Edit...I've just found it in the way forward agreement I assume it's still current.

On entry Four and a half weeks
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days
After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 20 years = Six weeks

Thanks for this....

So I will soon have 5 years service....so I will get 1 extra day off for my 5 years of service. What a gift!

This is literally all you get as a reward for loyalty / long service. What a way to retain staff!

I have to do another 10 years before I get anything extra and then it goes up another 2.5 days. I'll probably need a hip replacement by this point...but at least I get an extra 2.5 days off.

[fb1969]

As others have said, you keep your place on the seniority list.

During my time I went from PT to FT and kept the same place, but was then bottom of the FT list. I then when back to PT and kept the same place, but was then the most senior PT again.

[Clappedoutpostie]

I know it's 6 weeks leave after 20 years service, hopefully someone will come on soon and confirm the other times that our leave increases.
Edit...I've just found it in the way forward agreement I assume it's still current.

On entry Four and a half weeks
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days
After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 20 years = Six weeks

Thanks for this....

So I will soon have 5 years service....so I will get 1 extra day off for my 5 years of service. What a gift!

This is literally all you get as a reward for loyalty / long service. What a way to retain staff!

I have to do another 10 years before I get anything extra and then it goes up another 2.5 days. I'll probably need a hip replacement by this point...but at least I get an extra 2.5 days off.

Yes if your 5 years fall before the end of March your will get it this April. If your 5 year anniversary fall on say the 2nd of April u then need to wait until the holiday year after that to get it.

[Kenfandango]

We don't have a separate FT/PT seniority list, as everyone hired after about 2015 is part time with no option to move up to full. Everyone hired post 2019 is either kept as a reserve or occasionally offered to sign on to an RDC route with the caveat that they're still a reserve until "peak."

[gimba]

Cheers for the response everyone. Much appreciated
Waiting for the new contract to come through before I start it, incase royal mail add some rubbish to it on the sly

[Route1]

I know it's 6 weeks leave after 20 years service, hopefully someone will come on soon and confirm the other times that our leave increases.
Edit...I've just found it in the way forward agreement I assume it's still current.

On entry Four and a half weeks
After 5 years = Four weeks 3.5 days
After 15 years = Five weeks 1 day
After 20 years = Six weeks

Thanks for this....

So I will soon have 5 years service....so I will get 1 extra day off for my 5 years of service. What a gift!

This is literally all you get as a reward for loyalty / long service. What a way to retain staff!

I have to do another 10 years before I get anything extra and then it goes up another 2.5 days. I'll probably need a hip replacement by this point...but at least I get an extra 2.5 days off.

Yes if your 5 years fall before the end of March your will get it this April. If your 5 year anniversary fall on say the 2nd of April u then need to wait until the holiday year after that to get it.

You get it as soon as you turn "5 years old"....pro-rata ofcourse.

I buy annual leave and on my fifth anniversary the amount i paid for the extra weeks reduced.