LTB 203/23 - Business Recovery, Transformation & Growth (BRT&G) Agreement - Paragraph 6.4 - Attendance

[daveyeff]

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[daveyeff]

got this today on union whatsapp.....apparently the disagreement on it is.....people due to come off their respective stages are being given an extra 6 months as the new attendance procedure started yesterday.....disgusting. ignoring agreements already, before the ink is even dry!!.

[daveyeff]

2 lads in my office have already had their stages extended by 6 months. one is due to finish in a fortnight, the other lads was end of this month.....not any more. lets see what the CWU can do about this.

[Superdude]

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[enskied]

Question.
How many have cancelled their subs now ?

[TopperGas]

What's today's further update, they are meeting again tomorrow??

[heraldmoth]

Not sure that’s the main issue, we knew about that already. I’d be more worried about the fact that someone with a genuine lifelong illness can still be conducted if there’s a “pattern” to absences

[enskied]

How do sign new people up when the people around you are leaving?

[aiden01]

Not sure that’s the main issue, we knew about that already. I’d be more worried about the fact that someone with a genuine lifelong illness can still be conducted if there’s a “pattern” to absences

Think that is covered by the equality act.

[daveyeff]

Not sure that’s the main issue, we knew about that already. I’d be more worried about the fact that someone with a genuine lifelong illness can still be conducted if there’s a “pattern” to absences

Knew about it already?....well none of us did...not in our office anyway...the two lads who have had their end dates extended got a letter off head office telling them of the 6 month extension.....so no, we didnt know about it....i cant imagine we were the only office that didn't know.

[HTPostman]

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You know what’s going to sort all this? A 2 hour video on Facebook from Dave Ward. My union bingo card has the following on it:

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[heraldmoth]

Not sure that’s the main issue, we knew about that already. I’d be more worried about the fact that someone with a genuine lifelong illness can still be conducted if there’s a “pattern” to absences

Think that is covered by the equality act.

It’s covered but it won’t stop people being targeted regardless of an outstanding medical condition

[Woody Guthrie]

Not sure that’s the main issue, we knew about that already. I’d be more worried about the fact that someone with a genuine lifelong illness can still be conducted if there’s a “pattern” to absences

Speaking as someone who has represented many members during attendance reviews that's always been the case with previous incarnations of the attendance agreement.

The Equality Act only protects people from discrimination, it doesn't give a free pass on any amount of absence even if it's related to a "genuine lifelong illness".

An employer is only compelled to disregard what would be considered a "reasonable" amount of absence related to a disability but it doesn't put a figure on what's reasonable, that is left to the employer to justify if it were to reach an employment tribunal.

[worktotime]

still no news on this then ?

[CRIBMAD]

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