ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

For help with tracking please see...HERE
For information about your item being in HWDC Langley please see...HERE
For information about any other mail or if you have a complaint or general query, we first suggest you contact Royal Mail, see the link HERE.

This is an open forum.

Forum rules
For help with tracking please see...HERE
For information about your item being in HWDC Langley please see...HERE
For information about any other mail or if you have a complaint or general query, we first suggest you contact Royal Mail, see the link HERE.
Implications on mail after the UK's exit from the EU
From 1st January the rules for sending and receiving items to and from the EU will change.For more details please see... HERE
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Hi,

Parcel has arrived in the UK (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Is anyone having similar experiences with parcels from the US to the UK?

A parcel has been sent to me by USPS, that was scanned as leaving the US and arriving in the UK on 12 May.

The Royal Mail tracking doesn't recognize the parcel as arrived in the UK. I phoned Royal Mail yesterday and the first person told me it was being prepared to leave the UK (worrying). The second person I spoke to said it hadn't arrived in the UK yet (confusing).

Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened to this parcel - could it have been lost at Heathrow? It's not showing as having reached Langley yet.

As Royal Mail Customer Services don't seem to be able to help, does anyone know if the USPS would be able to try and locate it for me?

I'm concerned that it has been lost on arrival in the UK. Any advice (or similar experiences) would be really welcome!

Many thanks.

USPS Tracking:

May 12, 2021, 8:37 am
Departed
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
Your item departed a transfer airport in HEATHROW, LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM on May 12, 2021 at 8:37 am. The item is currently in transit to the destination.

May 11, 2021, 1:53 pm
Arrived
MIAMI, UNITED STATES

May 10, 2021, 7:21 pm
Processed Through Regional Facility
MIAMI FL INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER

May 10, 2021, 7:21 pm
Arrived at Regional Facility
MIAMI FL INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER

May 6, 2021, 4:40 pm
Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending
MIAMI, FL 33152

May 6, 2021, 2:39 pm
Departed Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
MIAMI, FL 33126
Shipping Partner: GLOBEGISTICS INC_JFK_PARCEL MODULE

May 6, 2021, 3:05 am
Arrived Shipping Partner Facility, USPS Awaiting Item
MIAMI, FL 33126
Shipping Partner: GLOBEGISTICS INC_JFK_PARCEL MODULE

May 4, 2021, 6:26 am
Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item
MIAMI, FL 33125


Royal Mail Tracking:

In Transit
This item is now leaving the originating country. More information will be available when it arrives in the UK.
From:
United States of America

Updated on: Tuesday 11 May
01:21am
Item Leaving overseas
United States of America
Snaggletooth
EX POST OFFICE
Posts: 2220
Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:17
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by Snaggletooth »

It will be in customs.
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Thanks very much @Snaggletooth.

I don't have many parcels from the US, so it was hard to judge it it's caught in the reported customs delays, or hadn't made the flight.

I've been comparing it against the only other parcel I've had, that first appeared to track in Royal Mail as Item Received at Langley HWDC. As below:

11:31am
Item has left our International Processing Centre
Heathrow Worldwide DC, United Kingdom

Tuesday 20 April
07:51am
Item Received
LANGLEY HWDC, United Kingdom

Saturday 17 April
01:42pm
Item Leaving overseas
United States of America

Wednesday 14 April
09:19pm
Item received at
United States of America

Do you know if:

1. When an item is recieved at Langley it's in the entering Customs, and after that is then passed on to Heathrow DC for delivery?
2. Or does Customs come before Langley and is a separate Border Force operation before RM get the parcel?

Thanks.
Snaggletooth
EX POST OFFICE
Posts: 2220
Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:17
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by Snaggletooth »

Royal Mail and customs are on the same site at Langley. It goes into the customs part first, and they don't have tracking equipment.
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72281
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

check out this thread - it looks like USPS scans are not "reliable" at the moment. viewtopic.php?p=941565#p941565
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.May use chatgp to generate posts
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support
Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
Retired
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Thanks @Snaggletooth. The interaction between RoyalMail and Customs (more so ParcelForce and Customs) has always confused me - do Royal Mail staff carry out the Customs checks, or do Border Force UK also have staff on site at Langley?

Thanks @TrueBlueTerrier as well. That was one of my earlier replies, well caveated with "I think ...", as it is what I have been able to gather talking to various at RM, USPS and carrier companies. Did it sound feasible?

It's really useful have Forum's like this.
Snaggletooth
EX POST OFFICE
Posts: 2220
Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:17
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by Snaggletooth »

HMRC staff carry out the customs checks (not Border Force or RM).
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Thanks @Snaggletooth.

My parcel is not yet scanned by RM as being at Langley, does that mean it hasn't been checked or gone through Customs clearnance? It apparently arrived in the UK on 12 May, RM still think it's in the US - I checked again today.
Snaggletooth
EX POST OFFICE
Posts: 2220
Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:17
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by Snaggletooth »

NickRMCustomer wrote:
21 May 2021, 20:20
Thanks @Snaggletooth.

My parcel is not yet scanned by RM as being at Langley, does that mean it hasn't been checked or gone through Customs clearnance? It apparently arrived in the UK on 12 May, RM still think it's in the US - I checked again today.
Yes, that’s correct.
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Hello @Snaggletooth

Some patience has paid off for me, it looks like you were quite right that the parcel was passing through Customs.

There had been no updates since the 11 May, but now it's moving through the system again - that cheered me up this morning!

USPS TRACKING:

May 25, 2021, 4:13 am
Processed through Facility
UNITED KINGDOM
Your item was processed through a facility in UNITED KINGDOM on May 25, 2021 at 4:13 am. The item is currently in transit to the destination.

May 24, 2021, 10:35 pm
Processed Through Facility
UNITED KINGDOM

May 12, 2021, 8:37 am
Departed
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM

May 11, 2021, 1:53 pm
Arrived
MIAMI, UNITED STATES

ROYAL MAIL TRACKING:

Updated on: Tuesday 25 May
04:13am
Item has left our International Processing Centre
Heathrow Worldwide DC, United Kingdom
Hide earlier journey

Monday 24 May
10:35pm
Item Received
LANGLEY HWDC, United Kingdom

Tuesday 11 May
01:21am
Item Leaving overseas
United States of America

Do you think the next stop after leaving HWDC will be my local sorting office?
Snaggletooth
EX POST OFFICE
Posts: 2220
Joined: 13 Sep 2011, 20:17
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by Snaggletooth »

Yes and no.

No in that it will have to pass through a mail centre or three to get to your local delivery office, depending on where you are in the UK.

Yes in that not all of these services get full tracking in the UK, it depends on how it was sent. So although it will pass through other places, you might not see this on the tracking.
NickRMCustomer
Posts: 69
Joined: 18 May 2021, 16:09
Gender: Male

Re: Parcel has arrived in the UK from US (allegedly), but no Royal Mail Tracking updates

Post by NickRMCustomer »

Thank you!

A rhetorical question, but I wonder how many questions RM get by people like me who have had a few bad experiences and start over-analysing the tracking?

In all honesty, until some lost parcels this year (PF not RM) I didn't really look at it that closely.

Thanks for your help - I wish you were guiding RM Customer Service, if they just gave clear answers it would be so much easier. I'm sure years ago (back in the days of half-day opening on a Thursday (now I sound old), you could go in and ask someone and they'd say "I've seen this before, it all looks fine" - and I'd have confidence in the answer. Perhaps I'm just being nostalgic though ...