Sub Post Office looking for Full Time Relief Worker

[sweettimes]

Hi all,

I am a Sub Postmaster looking for a Full Time Relief Worker to start ASAP

Location: Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Hours: 9am - 1pm + 2:30pm - 5:30pm (mon, tues, thurs, fri)
9am - 1pm (wed half day)
9am-12:30 (sat)

Please contact me asking for Mr Gupta on 02089746221 or 07792122980

Many thanks.

[subbie]

What is a Full Time Relief Worker? (Sounds rude)

Do you mean you want someone to cover for you the Postmaster on a Full Time basis?

Subbie

[paulpg36]

Sounds very much like a full time employee is needed for the hours quoted! I an confused as no need for cover between 13.00 to 14.30 although you may close for lunch but sounds like a long lunch break. Most of us poor subbies can no longer close at lunchtime and we are lucky if we get 10 minutes, if anything at all.

Paul

[paulpg36]

What I also meant to say was it sounds like you are looking for a manager rather than a relief worker.

Best of luck with your search.

[sweettimes]

thanks for your reply folks.

well my father in law is turning 72yrs and is looking for someone to take over the postoffice (and convenience store) as he wants to retire. He has considered handing in his notice to get the post office closed but feels it may take a very long time to do so. He is having a problem with finding a reliable person to run it. However, he has offered me to take it over. That would mean that I lease it off him and take whatever salary and profit the shop make.

How much does post office pay Sub postmasters? with regards to the hours, I guess its an hour lunch a day and around 36 hrs a week.

Any advice would be very much appre.
.ciated

[subbie]

Hi Sweetimes

Your father in law will have to resign to create a vacancy for you to apply for, so that if you pass the interview etc you can be the Postmaster.

Unfortunately due to the NT program POL will review the type of PO that they wish to have, and I would say that POL would want a PO Local to replace the current service, which will mean a much reduced income stream.

It may be best if your father in law simply makes you his "Officer in Charge" and you run his office whilst he continues to hold the contract and receive the remuneration which he could in turn pay to you as his manager. Doing it this way will mean that POL will always consider your father in law to be the Postmaster and all correspondence will go to him, and POL will hold him fully responsible for your actions whilst you run the office. But in a family set up this is pretty low risk.

Hope that helps

You should also join the Postmaster section of the CWU if you go ahead and run the office as they will be in a position to offer further help and guidance.

Subbie

[harpssamra]

Hey, I am a Sub postmistress and am looking for

SOMEONE TO WORK TEMP AS A HOLIDAY RELIEF ASAP IN MAY FOR 2-3 WEEKS

LOCATION OF POST OFFICE IS A VILLAGE NEAR BOSTON LINCS

YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED POST OFFICE WORKER AND MUST KNOW THE FOLLOWING

MVLA
LOTTERY
PAYSTATION

IF INTERESTED PLS CALL ON 01205460201 OR EMAIL h.k.samra@hotmail.com

THANKS

[subbie]

There is a list being complied of accredited Holiday Reliefs over on the CWU Postmasters Forum, obviously its members only access.

Subbie

[cdpete2004]

Hello Sweettimes. Let's see if you can get some real help here. For those who don't really want to join comrade subbie's 'gang' in order to get information, if I were you I'd try asking other local subpostmasters if they've used anyone as a relief lately, in real life I think we're more approachable, friendly and open, and willing to share information than some on this board. Your best bet is to try and find someone that way. by personal recommendation. If you contact human resources, they'll help you out a little (but like comrade subbie, they'll point you in the direction of their preferred federation, in their case, the nfsp). your father in law, if he hasn't used any, will be entitled to up to 4 weeks holiday relief pay (accruable up to 4 years, I think). So if he hasn't taken any holidays, he'll be able to get up to 16 weeks holiday relief rate of about £ 25 (?) a day which may help out the finances a little in the short term at least. If he's sick, he'll also be able to claim for sick substitution. He needs to talk to human resources though (the phone number is on the monthly payslip). Thay have forms to be filled out, and if they do try and fob you off with 'you need to talk to nfsp' remind the person you / your father-in-law' is talking to that your contract is with post office ltd, NOT the nfsp. they'll require that the relief is 'attached' to your office (I have no idea what that means exactly) get them to explain everything very carefully. In the short term, if you can find a relief subpostmaster through asking locally, I'd imagine they'll know how to do the paperwork. Assuming you find someone after asking around, I'm sure the subpostmaster who recommends a relief or the relief themselves will know what needs to be done. Make sure you check again with human resources though if you find someone that they are acceptable to pol to act as relief.

A word of warning though, nobody, not the nfsp with their list of reliefs, nor the cwu with their list (in preperation, apparently) of 'accredited' reliefs will mkae good for any losses casued, accidentally or criminally by any relief on their list no matter how 'accredited' they may be. So if you do find someone,check their references. I'm not sure exactly what the daily rate os for a relief, it varies by region, and demand, I suppose. I think you'd be looking at somewhere between £60 and £80 a day though (burt remember there's a daily allowance to be claimed if you go down this road).

Ok, that's short term covered. Longer term, you maybe should consider taking over the running of the post office yourself, take advantage of the relief and learn what he knows, any gaps, you can contact your local trainers through nbsc helpline and they may be able to give you some training time, if they're decent enough human beings, which most are. It's probably easier to find a shop manager than a post office manager, given the work and responsibility that's involved behind the post office counter, compared to a shop counter. But once again though, you maybe could ask around, maybe a local subpostmaster had to lay someone off in the not too distant past who's fully trained on the counter and could take on the role of post office manager.

I hope this helps you a little, I would have replied to your request for help earlier but couldn't log in yesterday, if you have any more questions, just ask, someone here I'm sure will try and help you, without insisting you pay your union or federation dues first.

Pete.

[subbie]

Wow, its all free at Pete's, fill your boots folks, find him @ Shangri La PO .com dress = Kaftan, Spliffs at 7.

Comrade Subbie

[cdpete2004]

Why is free advice and help so abhorrant a concept to you comrade subbie ? If you were a paramedic, would you insist a traffic accident victim became a member of unison (or whatever they're called these days) before you treated them ?

[cdpete2004]

comrade subbie, you did give some useful advice above, I'll admit. There is one bit though that you are slightly mistaken on, which is not surprising considering the way in which pol is making up the rules up on network termination as they go along.

Originally, the deadline for transferring a post office business, either through a sale or a family tarnsfer, was 31/12/12. So yes, the deadline should have passed and the only option, under the original guidance we were all given, would have been to transfer the business, but under the new model, as a local. HOWEVER, (and this shows the contempt and arrogance that pol has for its' agents and their contracts) in this months' 'modernisation matters' they've stated that the deadline 'after negotiations with the (go on, guess who ? give up ? ok, I'll tell you then) nfsp' has not only been extended to 31/3/13 (who knew ? really , who knew ?) but had been further extended to 30/6/13. I think someone in the nfsp, their family, or close friends, couldn't get their po sold in time, that's just my guess though of course, what would your guess be ? (this may be one guess we're agreed on, lol). So anyway, for Sweettimes, a transfer may still be an option for them, under the existing business model.

Sweettimes, for the long term you should look into that option, be sure to get a completed application in by 30th June though. Again, get some advice from HR on who you need to contact, or if your father-in-law has the network transformation literature, give one of them a call, and get them to confirm everything in writing, even what may seem the simplest and most straightforward info they give you verbally, get it all in writing.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Wow, its all free at Pete's, fill your boots folks, find him @ Shangri La PO .com dress = Kaftan, Spliffs at 7.

Comrade Subbie

Free advice is the raison d'être of RMC subbie and many on here, including me, would have struggled without it so long may Pete dispense it. Not sure of the spurious comments of yours in your reply are quite within the spirit of RMC though.

[sweettimes]

Thanks so much to both Subbie and Paul for your advice.

I shall get onto this asap! Which way I dont know at the minute but will let you know the outcome.

cheers

[capitalbiker]

as a ps to previous contributions please note the allowance for engaging a relief is only applicable if the sub postmaster is personally giving more than 18 hours service on the counter. ( and this is audited centrally )

if not then no payment is available

happy to be corrected.