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UPDATE FOR CWU MEMBERS - REBUILDING ROYAL MAIL

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UPDATE FOR CWU MEMBERS - REBUILDING ROYAL MAIL

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Just received this update via WhatsApp

UPDATE FOR CWU MEMBERS – REBUILDING ROYAL MAIL

Over recent weeks and months negotiations have taken place with Royal Mail Group on all elements of section 5 of the Rebuilding Royal Mail part 1 agreement, including equalising new entrants' terms and conditions and the future of the USO.  

Given the complexity of the negotiations, they have taken longer than first anticipated. This is primarily due to both parties being unable to reach agreement on USO reform. Whilst we would have wanted to be able to move this issue forward, we have been clear to Royal Mail that there are serious problems in the pilot units, and we cannot agree to their Optimised Delivery Model.  

We are pleased that Royal Mail / EP Group have taken a step back and have now fully confirmed there will be no further pilot units or roll out of the USO until the new year / a national agreement has been reached with the CWU. We welcome this approach as it is markedly different to what we saw under the previous senior management team who oversaw the destruction of the service through a relentless programme of executive action.  

We have agreed with Royal Mail to ensure our immediate focus will also be to support all the current pilot units and ensure these units are fully resourced and achieving all quality of service targets. We want to thank our members in the pilot units for the support and understanding in recent months.  

We will use this period to reach a comprehensive agreement on the USO that delivers on quality of service and improves the work / life balance for our members.  

The protracted nature of these negotiations has also impacted on other areas of the agreement including agreeing the first step in equalising new entrants' terms and conditions.  

Following discussions last week we can confirm that EP Group will now be taking the lead on these talks, and they will intensify from next week. The CWU position is that any settlement we reach will have to be backdated to September to ensure we deliver on the terms of the Rebuilding Royal Mail Part 1 agreement.  

We are fully aware that the true test of our agreement and of the new owners of Royal Mail is whether you are seeing and feeling change in the workplace. We know that is not currently the case. However, in the coming weeks, a number of initiatives and communications will be shared which we believe will begin a full re-set of employee and industrial relations. We want to see real and meaningful actions from Royal Mail and EP Group and through the negotiations we are determined to ensure this is what will be delivered.  

Finally, we will keep you updated with any developments from the negotiations.

Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secretary Postal

Dave Ward
General Secretary
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Post by SkiSunday »

What a load of f***ing drivel. The CWU are finished.
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Hahaha there it is. The classic CWU holding statement. Of course the uso stuff is now paused, Xmas is starting and we all know we now spend 10 weeks just trying to keep offices from buckling under the pressure. Changes were never going to be implemented between Oct-Dec so for the union to try save face and say EP group have backed down is insulting. Or even more worrying the union might believe that to be the case. It’s a temporary reprieve, be all guns blazing again come January. Anyone have faith that Dave, Martin and their rabble of misfits can help us in the new year?? Yeah me neither.
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So much for the no strings attached pay deal seems like everything that was agreed to come in September was attached to them rolling over on the uso negotiations...... Who knew that would be the case ohh yes every employee
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How would one leave the cwu after this update ?
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BenacreNick wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:37
How would one leave the cwu after this update ?
If you pay through wages contact payroll. If you do it by direct debit just stop the DD. Plenty of other unions you can join.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Post by tramssirhc »

Yet another missed deadline. Ward, Walsh, Boulch should all be booted out. Stop bankrolling their lifestyles. Get out of that tinpot 'union'.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Well this is predictably disappointing!
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tramssirhc wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:42
BenacreNick wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:37
How would one leave the cwu after this update ?
If you pay through wages contact payroll. If you do it by direct debit just stop the DD. Plenty of other unions you can join.
Can you tell me which one RM negotiate with?
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BenacreNick wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:37
How would one leave the cwu after this update ?
Same as before the update.thinking of joining pwrfc :wave
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pinstripe wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 21:09
tramssirhc wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:42
BenacreNick wrote:
02 Oct 2025, 15:37
How would one leave the cwu after this update ?
If you pay through wages contact payroll. If you do it by direct debit just stop the DD. Plenty of other unions you can join.
Can you tell me which one RM negotiate with?
None of them including the CWU by the looks of things?
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Post by Rommagic »

No mail apart from first class stamps on Tuesdays and Saturdays save £200m a year most people 3 in 6 Saturdays and Tuesdays off.
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Rommagic wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:01
No mail apart from first class stamps on Tuesdays and Saturdays save £200m a year most people 3 in 6 Saturdays and Tuesdays off.
That's been proved not to be true. The requirement every day is delivering every item that is due delivery that day. It is simply not possible to have a 'first class stamps' only delivery method. The CWU know that. Any day where there is a deferral in traffic results in a cost the next day.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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tramssirhc wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:31
Rommagic wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:01
No mail apart from first class stamps on Tuesdays and Saturdays save £200m a year most people 3 in 6 Saturdays and Tuesdays off.
That's been proved not to be true. The requirement every day is delivering every item that is due delivery that day. It is simply not possible to have a 'first class stamps' only delivery method. The CWU know that. Any day where there is a deferral in traffic results in a cost the next day.
We already leave a far few of our duties 2c mail in the frames on a Saturday, there's no reason that couldn't have been at least trialled by RM, given Monday's & Tuesday's now tend to be very light days. Assuming mail keeps dropping, although I'm not really sure residential mail is dropping as much as business mail, then drop Tuesday.
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TopperGas wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:41
tramssirhc wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:31
Rommagic wrote:
03 Oct 2025, 16:01
No mail apart from first class stamps on Tuesdays and Saturdays save £200m a year most people 3 in 6 Saturdays and Tuesdays off.
That's been proved not to be true. The requirement every day is delivering every item that is due delivery that day. It is simply not possible to have a 'first class stamps' only delivery method. The CWU know that. Any day where there is a deferral in traffic results in a cost the next day.
We already leave a far few of our duties 2c mail in the frames on a Saturday, there's no reason that couldn't have been at least trialled by RM, given Monday's & Tuesday's now tend to be very light days. Assuming mail keeps dropping, although I'm not really sure residential mail is dropping as much as business mail, then drop Tuesday.
Monday and Tuesday are now like a light Wednesday for parcels at our DO