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Who's ready to take industrial action?

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Are you ready to back the CWU in this fight?

Poll ended at 16 Oct 2019, 10:53

YES
436
90%
NO
51
10%
 
Total votes: 487

Chelseablue
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Post by Chelseablue »

The childish propaganda was embarrassing last time . Remember the ones telling you not to strike etc on youre pda? Some of our members in our office dont know what the disputes about, we need to go to town on this or let this guy destroy our jobs and lives as they are at mo . . Need to get the public on our side too big time
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

The SWW, whilst its a welcome hourly increase for part-timers, all its going to do right here and now is put more pressure on full-time posties. The CWU drive to 35 is a pipe dream at the moment because indoor savings just haven't been made plus it doesn't give Royal Mail any scope for their profitable lapsing. Bit worrying about whats happening with ParcelForce what with TUPE and all that, although judging by the number of bigger parcels we have been delivering just recently I'm wondering if we have been doing their work anyway.

The other issue is that of the USO and if Ofcom allows Royal Mail to drop to a 5 day week USO could that put the CWU into a different bargaining position? Surely if our regulating body agrees to it then wouldn't it be in the best interests of the CWU to try and find a way to try and negotiate with it?? All I'm hearing from the Union is that 20,000 jobs would be go and they may instead just need a Plan B.

In spite of all this though I'm voting YES because Rico doesn't seem to be playing ball at the moment. Lets just keep things quiet and ticking over.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

Chelseablue wrote:The childish propaganda was embarrassing last time . Remember the ones telling you not to strike etc on youre pda? Some of our members in our office dont know what the disputes about, we need to go to town on this or let this guy destroy our jobs and lives as they are at mo . . Need to get the public on our side too big time
How can you go to town on this if members in your office dont know what dispute is about never mind the public knowing what its about ffs..
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

I will it is not for just my pay and conditions but for all of us we need an agreement and we need these people whom cannot abide by the last agreement that they should take their heads out of the trough and look at the workers US all and negotiate and respect US all and not treat US as cannon fodder for their hedonistic ambitions in life!
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Post by worktotime »

100 % to stand on the gate , lets not mess about with the 1 or 2 days lets go for all out for as long as it takes to sort this company out , and show Rico we aren't all idiots and they cant do what they want when they want , :thumbup
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Post by leolion855 »

worktotime wrote:100 % to stand on the gate , lets not mess about with the 1 or 2 days lets go for all out for as long as it takes to sort this company out , and show Rico we aren't all idiots and they cant do what they want when they want , :thumbup

Thats all well and good but look at what happened to british leyland in the 70s - the customers just went elsewhere and there werent any jobs to go back to.
rogersh
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Post by rogersh »

aiden01 wrote:
Chelseablue wrote:The childish propaganda was embarrassing last time . Remember the ones telling you not to strike etc on youre pda? Some of our members in our office dont know what the disputes about, we need to go to town on this or let this guy destroy our jobs and lives as they are at mo . . Need to get the public on our side too big time
How can you go to town on this if members in your office dont know what dispute is about never mind the public knowing what its about ffs..
I have received a two CWU mailings today, one from the district branch & one outlining "what is at stake/vote yes" . Assuming every member was sent & reads these communications, then all should be aware of what the dispute is about.
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rogersh wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
Chelseablue wrote:The childish propaganda was embarrassing last time . Remember the ones telling you not to strike etc on youre pda? Some of our members in our office dont know what the disputes about, we need to go to town on this or let this guy destroy our jobs and lives as they are at mo . . Need to get the public on our side too big time
How can you go to town on this if members in your office dont know what dispute is about never mind the public knowing what its about ffs..
I have received a two CWU mailings today, one from the district branch & one outlining "what is at stake/vote yes" . Assuming every member was sent & reads these communications, then all should be aware of what the dispute is about.
Not had any communication and they have my e mail and am a member. But I know this strike is for us all and will back it for a future of the forma GLS management is what we are against we don't want hours based contracts on a day to day basis!
afcdibby
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bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
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afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
afcdibby
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k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
And what about those hard working employees who aren't in the CWU?
Phantom
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Post by Phantom »

afcdibby wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
And what about those hard working employees who aren't in the CWU?
If you don't fight, whether you're in the CWU or not then you will lose and the hard working employees will be on the dole. Do you want that?
CUT OFF!!!
k979aaa
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afcdibby wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
And what about those hard working employees who aren't in the CWU?
Unionisation bought the rights of all standards of employment health and safety and representation of the people and thus the 1946 Labour government which bought in the NHS. Now we are faced with the destruction of the NHS so we can be sold to the USA and their corrupt companies who sell us the drugs at 3 times the price of now as they are passing the cost of litigation onto us all in the UK!
afcdibby
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Post by afcdibby »

k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
And what about those hard working employees who aren't in the CWU?
Unionisation bought the rights of all standards of employment health and safety and representation of the people and thus the 1946 Labour government which bought in the NHS. Now we are faced with the destruction of the NHS so we can be sold to the USA and their corrupt companies who sell us the drugs at 3 times the price of now as they are passing the cost of litigation onto us all in the UK!
Doesn't really answer the original question though.
k979aaa
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afcdibby wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
afcdibby wrote:
bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting
You won't be alone. Hard to work out what some folk want sometimes.
The very fact of the matter is your say counts voting is a privilege some in the world don't get use you vote wisely as forces from the powers that be at the helm are running us aground on a cliff face!
And what about those hard working employees who aren't in the CWU?
Unionisation bought the rights of all standards of employment health and safety and representation of the people and thus the 1946 Labour government which bought in the NHS. Now we are faced with the destruction of the NHS so we can be sold to the USA and their corrupt companies who sell us the drugs at 3 times the price of now as they are passing the cost of litigation onto us all in the UK!
Doesn't really answer the original question though.
Well if you feel thus empowered you can negotiate all your terms and conditions yourself and good luck with that.