The unknown of DM26

[Whippy]

Doesn’t really matter what comes in ODM 2.0, DM26 or whatever fancy name they want to call it. Start time finish time..do what you can within that time. Bring back what you can’t.

[mr hil.]

In the van share pairing one walk will be "heavy" (all mail and parcels) and one will be "light" (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). The posties will "park and loop" both rounds together as they do now. They will also take a third of each of the other two duties in their "POD" these will also be one heavy and one light. They can do this because the expected call rate of the light duties is only about 20%. The light and heavy will switch on the second day etc...

The singleton driver in the "POD" will prep the other two duties and deliver two thirds of each walk, one of which be "heavy" and one "light".

This is Monday to Friday.

All town duties are a "light" day on Saturday so no 2nd class or down stream access mail. It's expected that Saturdays will be one postie will do two TOWN walks (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). They will get assistance from any Rural or Firms to help even out the workload (just like the lapsing we do now) This means that the really parcel heavy duties will be helped the most, that is where the local knowledge comes in to play during the planning.

This will only work if the duties are currently achievable, if they are failing now then they should be reduced, that is why all the extra duties are being put back in.

The mail centres will only send mail that is due in the mech trays, automatically holding anything that isn't due delivery on the "light" walks. The manual mail (flats and non machinable letters) cannot be held at the mail centre so will be sent to the DO but it will be segregated into 1st and second class. The DO will sort the Manual into the different coloured IPS frames so the first class will be easily identifiable. All first class manual will go out every day as it does now, with the second class manual delivered every other day.

On paper this could work but the planning has to be got right. The Rural and Firms duties will be doing 50/50 heavy and light so will have some time to pick up some of the excess that is generated when reducing the Town walks to make them achievable.

[Perseus]

In the van share pairing one walk will be "heavy" (all mail and parcels) and one will be "light" (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). The posties will "park and loop" both rounds together as they do now. They will also take a third of each of the other two duties in their "POD" these will also be one heavy and one light. They can do this because the expected call rate of the light duties is only about 20%. The light and heavy will switch on the second day etc...

The singleton driver in the "POD" will prep the other two duties and deliver two thirds of each walk, one of which be "heavy" and one "light".

This is Monday to Friday.

All town duties are a "light" day on Saturday so no 2nd class or down stream access mail. It's expected that Saturdays will be one postie will do two TOWN walks (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). They will get assistance from any Rural or Firms to help even out the workload (just like the lapsing we do now) This means that the really parcel heavy duties will be helped the most, that is where the local knowledge comes in to play during the planning.

This will only work if the duties are currently achievable, if they are failing now then they should be reduced, that is why all the extra duties are being put back in.

The mail centres will only send mail that is due in the mech trays, automatically holding anything that isn't due delivery on the "light" walks. The manual mail (flats and non machinable letters) cannot be held at the mail centre so will be sent to the DO but it will be segregated into 1st and second class. The DO will sort the Manual into the different coloured IPS frames so the first class will be easily identifiable. All first class manual will go out every day as it does now, with the second class manual delivered every other day.

On paper this could work but the planning has to be got right. The Rural and Firms duties will be doing 50/50 heavy and light so will have some time to pick up some of the excess that is generated when reducing the Town walks to make them achievable.

That’s probably the best explanation of DM26 I’ve seen and what it does show is that there is zero room for error.
In a grouping of 4 duties in a shared van ‘pod’ 1 and 2 plus 3 and 4, duties 1 and 3 get all items one day then next day it’s 2 and 4. People will have to learn to move about and do loops from the other 2 frames and they won’t like it one bit. The 3 people need to work or fail as a team which will be a real eye opener for some in ours who think nothing of only doing THEIR loops and then leave early.

[TopperGas]

Where's this taking a third nonsense come from, whilst that might be workable for the first week, you can see by the second week nobody will have a clue which third has been delivered and which two thirds still need to be delivered.

It's mind blowing RM have made such an easy job, to something so complicated it needs a manual to understand how it works.

[tramssirhc]

In the van share pairing one walk will be "heavy" (all mail and parcels) and one will be "light" (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). The posties will "park and loop" both rounds together as they do now. They will also take a third of each of the other two duties in their "POD" these will also be one heavy and one light. They can do this because the expected call rate of the light duties is only about 20%. The light and heavy will switch on the second day etc...

The singleton driver in the "POD" will prep the other two duties and deliver two thirds of each walk, one of which be "heavy" and one "light".

This is Monday to Friday.

All town duties are a "light" day on Saturday so no 2nd class or down stream access mail. It's expected that Saturdays will be one postie will do two TOWN walks (1st class, parcels and coincidental mail). They will get assistance from any Rural or Firms to help even out the workload (just like the lapsing we do now) This means that the really parcel heavy duties will be helped the most, that is where the local knowledge comes in to play during the planning.

This will only work if the duties are currently achievable, if they are failing now then they should be reduced, that is why all the extra duties are being put back in.

The mail centres will only send mail that is due in the mech trays, automatically holding anything that isn't due delivery on the "light" walks. The manual mail (flats and non machinable letters) cannot be held at the mail centre so will be sent to the DO but it will be segregated into 1st and second class. The DO will sort the Manual into the different coloured IPS frames so the first class will be easily identifiable. All first class manual will go out every day as it does now, with the second class manual delivered every other day.

On paper this could work but the planning has to be got right. The Rural and Firms duties will be doing 50/50 heavy and light so will have some time to pick up some of the excess that is generated when reducing the Town walks to make them achievable.

The reversion of the imposed revisions is where the duties are returning. There are no revisions so the 2010 revisions are not being resolved, which is primarily where the failures stem from. There is also the change in traffic profiles, new builds and additional tasks that have not been tested on duties. Absolutely if the duties cannot complete then it is probable that they will not complete under DM26.

[tramssirhc]

Where's this taking a third nonsense come from, whilst that might be workable for the first week, you can see by the second week nobody will have a clue which third has been delivered and which two thirds still need to be delivered.

It's mind blowing RM have made such an easy job, to something so complicated it needs a manual to understand how it works.

The lapsing is fixed. No one has to decide which bits are going. It's predetermined.

[SpacePhoenix]

The mail centres will only send mail that is due in the mech trays, automatically holding anything that isn't due delivery on the "light" walks. The manual mail (flats and non machinable letters) cannot be held at the mail centre so will be sent to the DO but it will be segregated into 1st and second class. The DO will sort the Manual into the different coloured IPS frames so the first class will be easily identifiable. All first class manual will go out every day as it does now, with the second class manual delivered every other day.

We've not had any info yet about what will happen if an item of 2C or DSA has hit the time limit for the product used but it isn't the 2C day for the walk that the DP is on.

[TopperGas]

Where's this taking a third nonsense come from, whilst that might be workable for the first week, you can see by the second week nobody will have a clue which third has been delivered and which two thirds still need to be delivered.

It's mind blowing RM have made such an easy job, to something so complicated it needs a manual to understand how it works.

The lapsing is fixed. No one has to decide which bits are going. It's predetermined.

If you're taking a third of one of the 4 duties in the pod then how can it be fixed as surely you won't take the same third every day?

[Perseus]

What they really should have done is wherever possible make every duty single and artificially ‘big’ - say 700-800 houses. You do 400 houses with all items and 400 with only tracked and 1C. Next day switch.
I’d imagine depending on the attendance pattern you could even increase the duty size to 1000 houses.
It would easily save more money in offices that can operate that way rather than throwing DM26 at each and every office and hoping for the best.

[TopperGas]

What they really should have done is wherever possible make every duty single and artificially ‘big’ - say 700-800 houses. You do 400 houses with all items and 400 with only tracked and 1C. Next day switch.
I’d imagine depending on the attendance pattern you could even increase the duty size to 1000 houses.
It would easily save more money in offices that can operate that way rather than throwing DM26 at each and every office and hoping for the best.

That would mean every single duty postie having a van or covering a massive area with a HCT?

[Perseus]

What they really should have done is wherever possible make every duty single and artificially ‘big’ - say 700-800 houses. You do 400 houses with all items and 400 with only tracked and 1C. Next day switch.
I’d imagine depending on the attendance pattern you could even increase the duty size to 1000 houses.
It would easily save more money in offices that can operate that way rather than throwing DM26 at each and every office and hoping for the best.

That would mean every single duty postie having a van or covering a massive area with a HCT?

That’s why I said wherever possible. Adding 1/3 onto every duty (for example) would free up extra vans - it’s already going to be doing that with DM26. Whole offices that aren’t rural have managed to acquire 1 van per person, why not all?
The same applies for HCT’s. Make them doable and 1/3 bigger then split them in 2 on alternate days doing all items then 1C and tracked.
One things first sure, throwing DM26 at all offices isn’t going to work, you already see that with rural ones etc that there is zero timed saved doing 50/50 as most of the duty is travelling.

[richietns]

I was under the impression there were 240 offices running this new trial already. There are some in our area doing it, some not. They all get fed from the nearest mail centre.
If it's going to work/not work the deployment date is irrelevant in my view - in fact, there is more chance of it working in the summer, i.e. now.

We are one of the trial offices and we have to be up and running for July.

Do you think it would make any difference if they delayed it until October?

Personally I'm pleased they are doing it in July so we are up and running for Christmas because its coming in anyway and we are getting a repick in a lighter season.

[richietns]

Doesn’t really matter what comes in ODM 2.0, DM26 or whatever fancy name they want to call it. Start time finish time..do what you can within that time. Bring back what you can’t.

Thats the 1000th time I've heard that its the heavier workload within the time what pisses people off literally manually heavier and pissing about more because you've got more letters d2ds and parcels.

[Mr Rush]

It's mind blowing RM have made such an easy job, to something so complicated it needs a manual to understand how it works.

I still struggle to wrap my head around this, which is why I'm waiting to see it in practice to understand how it works. Or, as I suspect, does not.

[postslippete]

The biggest weakness in DM26 is that the planners seem to be looking at call rates rather than actual time.

Some days this week we've only had a single tray of letters. If you're already walking the street delivering parcels and a handful of 1c, then not delivering another 10-20 letters isn't necessarily saving as much time as the planners think when many parcels fit in the bag anyway.

As I've said before, delivering loops spread across different areas also creates additional driving time, extra frame work, prep and bagging. These are inefficiencies that just don't exist when you're simply doing your own round.

Our office is already having to put duties back in to make the model achievable. More duties + more staff = less savings

I honestly believe that what RM thinks it will save on the swings, it will end up spending on the roundabouts. Just like removing a duty and then needing additional overtime or support to make the operation work. The real question is whether the savings actually exceed the additional costs created elsewhere.