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USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
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hero22
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Our office is one of the trial offices and had our meeting this morning. Its majority rural office and they are pretty much leaving them alone apart from Saturdays when only parcels and first class go out so an early Saturday. There is also an option for them to have 2 saturdays off per 6 but this needs looking into.
Town duties will do 2nd class 2 days one week and 3 days another. In essence 3 people doing 4 duties. Duties will no longer seemingly exist but instead Routes which we have been told can be signed for at some stage. Bulk postings, door 2 doors and sickness etc seemingly is going to be worked out as the trial continues.
Its all as clear as mud and at no stage sounded like a trial but a tick boxing exercise before complete implementation. Union reps reminded us of the repercussions if trials fail by reminding us of what happened to the Belgium postal service(mass job losses). Seemingly there won’t be forced redundancies but a more natural loss of people due to retirement or leaving.
Hard to know what to make of it all.
Town duties will do 2nd class 2 days one week and 3 days another. In essence 3 people doing 4 duties. Duties will no longer seemingly exist but instead Routes which we have been told can be signed for at some stage. Bulk postings, door 2 doors and sickness etc seemingly is going to be worked out as the trial continues.
Its all as clear as mud and at no stage sounded like a trial but a tick boxing exercise before complete implementation. Union reps reminded us of the repercussions if trials fail by reminding us of what happened to the Belgium postal service(mass job losses). Seemingly there won’t be forced redundancies but a more natural loss of people due to retirement or leaving.
Hard to know what to make of it all.
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Dingo99
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
That system looks bloody horrendous!
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ted_e_bear
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hero22
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Im assuming thats his 2nd Saturday off in the 6. But to get that Saturday off it sounds like u will be out 2 hours extra most of the week.
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Dexydog
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Who's doing route D on a Thursday, and route A on a Friday?
Edit- the grey writing at the bottom seems to suggest every other week all mail will only be going 2 days a week.
Mondays and Tuesdays will be super fun.
Edit- the grey writing at the bottom seems to suggest every other week all mail will only be going 2 days a week.
Mondays and Tuesdays will be super fun.
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Playmail
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Do all 3 have a van?
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funkflex55
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
As expected the above trial does lead to 3 days mail on certain days.
Edit a lot of walks in my office cannot be cleared with 1 day of mail in them so when there's 3 days I'm sure it'll go amazingly well.
Edit a lot of walks in my office cannot be cleared with 1 day of mail in them so when there's 3 days I'm sure it'll go amazingly well.
Last edited by funkflex55 on 28 Jan 2025, 15:14, edited 1 time in total.
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scoobydo79
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Nice!!! So your own union reps are now hitting you with the Royal Mail stick are they?hero22 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 12:49Our office is one of the trial offices and had our meeting this morning. Its majority rural office and they are pretty much leaving them alone apart from Saturdays when only parcels and first class go out so an early Saturday. There is also an option for them to have 2 saturdays off per 6 but this needs looking into.
Town duties will do 2nd class 2 days one week and 3 days another. In essence 3 people doing 4 duties. Duties will no longer seemingly exist but instead Routes which we have been told can be signed for at some stage. Bulk postings, door 2 doors and sickness etc seemingly is going to be worked out as the trial continues.
Its all as clear as mud and at no stage sounded like a trial but a tick boxing exercise before complete implementation. Union reps reminded us of the repercussions if trials fail by reminding us of what happened to the Belgium postal service(mass job losses). Seemingly there won’t be forced redundancies but a more natural loss of people due to retirement or leaving.
Hard to know what to make of it all.
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Dexydog
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
I was thinking that.
Cos if they are that's an extra van needed for every 4 walks.
That, or they expect a van share to clear 3 days mail on 2 walks on 3 days a week.
Good luck with that.
I just think, let them crack on, don't help it work in any form.
And we all know what that means- don't come in early, don't rush, and use a trolley (you'll need to with 3 days mail).
I'd like to say collectively refuse to do any overtime too, but that, nor the above will happen.
If ever there was a time to do the job right.
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Smoothbackground
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
It all looks and feels way too complicated. My head is still dizzy trying to work out how it works in practice.
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ted_e_bear
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Perseus
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Rural duties were always going to be a sticking point due to the extra costs involved and inefficiencies of going over the same ground with parcels and 1st class the second day. Will probably pose a dilemma for those who choose them as they tend to be the most senior peeps, but will get the least Saturdays off. Try telling someone who has driven rural for 20 years that they can have every Saturday off if they choose to walk 12 miles a day.
The whole thing looks like it requires a fair deal of flexibility from staff and planning from management, I think that's where it will fall apart.
The whole thing looks like it requires a fair deal of flexibility from staff and planning from management, I think that's where it will fall apart.
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menditsa
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Just do what the University graduates are telling you to do.
Don't you understand all this will increase the delivery KPI by 0.000000001% ?
Anyone would think you regular posties can't grasp simple logic
Don't you understand all this will increase the delivery KPI by 0.000000001% ?
Anyone would think you regular posties can't grasp simple logic
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A2B
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Still no clearer about non drivers and HCT routes
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Barnacle
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Re: USO pilots, can anyone on the trial give an honest appraisal
Love how they are trying to sell it in the column on the right. All very chipper and upbeathero22 wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 12:49Our office is one of the trial offices and had our meeting this morning. Its majority rural office and they are pretty much leaving them alone apart from Saturdays when only parcels and first class go out so an early Saturday. There is also an option for them to have 2 saturdays off per 6 but this needs looking into.
Town duties will do 2nd class 2 days one week and 3 days another. In essence 3 people doing 4 duties. Duties will no longer seemingly exist but instead Routes which we have been told can be signed for at some stage. Bulk postings, door 2 doors and sickness etc seemingly is going to be worked out as the trial continues.
Its all as clear as mud and at no stage sounded like a trial but a tick boxing exercise before complete implementation. Union reps reminded us of the repercussions if trials fail by reminding us of what happened to the Belgium postal service(mass job losses). Seemingly there won’t be forced redundancies but a more natural loss of people due to retirement or leaving.
Hard to know what to make of it all.
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