Intergrated Mail Processor Operators!

[lovejoy]

just thought maybe given the fact that the cost of running these sites is sky high maybe debates about how lazy people who operate machines are could be a little pointless?

But if you think otherwise just carry on......... at least you won't be banned like we were on your old favourite site

I don't think it is upto you to decide Lovejoy. This is just so typical of the posters on this site. All you get is you're a manager, you're a jobsworth, you're a scab! I suppose any thread that doesn't concern the CWU or DOs is pointless.

like i'e just posted, i've never called you a manager but thats twice you've said it. You're giving a confession here aren't you

[postal_jedi]

just thought maybe given the fact that the cost of running these sites is sky high maybe debates about how lazy people who operate machines are could be a little pointless?

But if you think otherwise just carry on......... at least you won't be banned like we were on your old favourite site

I don't think it is upto you to decide Lovejoy. This is just so typical of the posters on this site. All you get is you're a manager, you're a jobsworth, you're a scab! I suppose any thread that doesn't concern the CWU or DOs is pointless.

like i'e just posted, i've never called you a manager but thats twice you've said it. You're giving a confession here aren't you

Here we go. If I was a manager why would I lie about it. Your bloody paranoid. My references to management weren't specific to your comment, you never mentioned scab either. If it makes you happy to think I'm a gaffa fine, think it. Now what? The point to it is?

[lovejoy]

just thought maybe given the fact that the cost of running these sites is sky high maybe debates about how lazy people who operate machines are could be a little pointless?

But if you think otherwise just carry on......... at least you won't be banned like we were on your old favourite site

I don't think it is upto you to decide Lovejoy. This is just so typical of the posters on this site. All you get is you're a manager, you're a jobsworth, you're a scab! I suppose any thread that doesn't concern the CWU or DOs is pointless.

like i'e just posted, i've never called you a manager but thats twice you've said it. You're giving a confession here aren't you

Here we go. If I was a manager why would I lie about it. Your bloody paranoid. My references to management weren't specific to your comment, you never mentioned scab either. If it makes you happy to think I'm a gaffa fine, think it. Now what? The point to it is?

i've never said or cared whether you are a boss! Just think how many people have slacked off on the IMPs while you have been replying to me

[postal_jedi]

just thought maybe given the fact that the cost of running these sites is sky high maybe debates about how lazy people who operate machines are could be a little pointless?

But if you think otherwise just carry on......... at least you won't be banned like we were on your old favourite site

I don't think it is upto you to decide Lovejoy. This is just so typical of the posters on this site. All you get is you're a manager, you're a jobsworth, you're a scab! I suppose any thread that doesn't concern the CWU or DOs is pointless.

like i'e just posted, i've never called you a manager but thats twice you've said it. You're giving a confession here aren't you

Here we go. If I was a manager why would I lie about it. Your bloody paranoid. My references to management weren't specific to your comment, you never mentioned scab either. If it makes you happy to think I'm a gaffa fine, think it. Now what? The point to it is?

i've never said or cared whether you are a boss! Just think how many people have slacked off on the IMPs while you have been replying to me

I never said I cared about people slacking off on the IMPs. Like I have stipulated constantly throughout this thread I have simply made observations that I think will effect the RM workforce. Again what is your point? Do you have any?

Ps I do believe you refered to me as BOSS!

[lovejoy]

just thought maybe given the fact that the cost of running these sites is sky high maybe debates about how lazy people who operate machines are could be a little pointless?

But if you think otherwise just carry on......... at least you won't be banned like we were on your old favourite site

I don't think it is upto you to decide Lovejoy. This is just so typical of the posters on this site. All you get is you're a manager, you're a jobsworth, you're a scab! I suppose any thread that doesn't concern the CWU or DOs is pointless.

like i'e just posted, i've never called you a manager but thats twice you've said it. You're giving a confession here aren't you

Here we go. If I was a manager why would I lie about it. Your bloody paranoid. My references to management weren't specific to your comment, you never mentioned scab either. If it makes you happy to think I'm a gaffa fine, think it. Now what? The point to it is?

i've never said or cared whether you are a boss! Just think how many people have slacked off on the IMPs while you have been replying to me

I never said I cared about people slacking off on the IMPs. Like I have stipulated constantly throughout this thread I have simply made observations that I think will effect the RM workforce. Again what is your point? Do you have any?

Ps I do believe you refered to me as BOSS!

must have been a slip of the tongue gaffer, anyhow i'm off to make sure all the road cones on the gas works in my street are in a straight line. You have inspired me

[postal_jedi]

Lovejoy, you are so wrong. You just have no idea. Good luck with the cones.

[teesdale]

At Bristol Mail Centre the imp operators have to segregate the rejects themselves into 1st class, 2nd and intra. This is so the 2nd and intra can then be dumped on other shifts but making it easier for ours. We are actually taking some mail out of the machineable path when it was refeed until recently and now making it manual. This contradicts a poster made during the royal mail way project and adds 10p processing costs to each newly classed manual letter. All the comments about free time on an imp are almost true. Ok when the engineers are fixing something you may get 10 minutes to stop moving, but this is outweighed by the selfish ***** who will not work as part of a team. :lfo

[Flashman]

I love the quote 'a thread you haven't started is getting more attenntion than you' - from what i can see its two sad anoraks verbally pleasuring each other with a smattering of reasonably minded people wondering what the hell it is all about!

No offence jed' but he is obviously referring to you as a 'sad anorak' but who is the other person he would be tarring with the same brush.

[Flashman]

health and safety says if an imp has the drum on it is 4 men, without the drum it is 3 men / women, RM would love to run an imp with 1 on the sorter, but H&S says noway...

I don't see why having one person on the sorter of an IMP is a health and safety issue. Especially, when you have just the one person on the sorter of an LSM and I do believe it has the same number of boxes.

An LSM has one and a half men on the sorter, the half man being someone who works between two machines. If you also take into account that the feeder also clears a part of the sorter then you pretty much have 2 men on the sorter of a LSM.

I bring the issue down to boxes because, as I am led to believe, an IMPex only requires two operators, one of which is on the feeding part.

We had an IMPex in our office and it had far fewer boxes than an IMP, I would say the sorter was about a quarter of the size and had one person working on it.

That IMPex was converted to an IMP but without a drum so the sorter now has 160 boxes and requires 2 staff on the sorter.

[postal_jedi]

We had an IMPex in our office and it had far fewer boxes than an IMP, I would say the sorter was about a quarter of the size and had one person working on it.

That IMPex was converted to an IMP but without a drum so the sorter now has 160 boxes and requires 2 staff on the sorter.

That's very interesting, Flashman. So does that bring the difference between an IMP and an IMPex down to the number of boxes. Or is it still technically an IMPex?

[Flashman]

Actually, untrained/poorly trained operators is a particular bug-bear of mine, and has been for years. I have crossed swords with various managers over the years regarding this practice, and I now know the replies verbatim.
1 "They're all I've got, there is no-one else".
2 " they're happy to do it, I let 'em".
3 " Piss off, they're better than the regular crew".
I don't waste my breath any more, nor do I stick my head up over the parapet on issues that I can neither resolve or even improve, as there are people in the building more suitable than I and they can't be bothered.
"Refuse to work on machine"? Yeah sure. I'll risk suspension over an issue that the relevant parties themselves deem acceptable. Joan of Arc was burned 800 years ago, proof enough that martyrdom doesn't pay.

a sad state of affairs indeed, have you thought about phoning the Samaritans.

As for why describing her as Chinese, that's easy to explain. She is, and speaks very little English. Simple huh?

So even more of a reason why she should not be working on the machine.

[Flashman]

We had an IMPex in our office and it had far fewer boxes than an IMP, I would say the sorter was about a quarter of the size and had one person working on it.

That IMPex was converted to an IMP but without a drum so the sorter now has 160 boxes and requires 2 staff on the sorter.

That's very interesting, Flashman. So does that bring the difference between an IMP and an IMPex down to the number of boxes. Or is it still technically an IMPex?

ehm!! yeah, I suppose it is down to the size of the sorter.

It is certainly never referred to as an IMPex anymore.

[Tman]

a sad state of affairs indeed, have you thought about phoning the Samaritans.

No, have you?

As for why describing her as Chinese, that's easy to explain. She is, and speaks very little English. Simple huh?

So even more of a reason why she should not be working on the machine.

What are you saying, "foreigners" can't run machines?

[Tman]

That's very interesting, Flashman. So does that bring the difference between an IMP and an IMPex down to the number of boxes. Or is it still technically an IMPex
ehm!! yeah, I suppose it is down to the size of the sorter.

It is certainly never referred to as an IMPex anymore

IMPEXs were drum-less IMPs designed for smaller offices where space was tight. Nothing to do with the size of the sorter.

[L Tommo]

a sad state of affairs indeed, have you thought about phoning the Samaritans.

No, have you?

As for why describing her as Chinese, that's easy to explain. She is, and speaks very little English. Simple huh?

So even more of a reason why she should not be working on the machine.

What are you saying, "foreigners" can't run machines?

I know one thing.... In this day of PC madness... RM HAD it right, In my old DO EVERYBODY was to speak ENGLISH... Didnt matter where you came from , ENGLISH was the language ... Now The issue that a Chinese person with very little English spoken working on a IMP.. LSM... CFC.. And any MECH is not on as (1) our old friend H&S comes in to play and ( 2) Security of the mail and Make it fair for all working.... A postie needs to know English and read it to do the job... So being a colour or creed doesnt matter.. Just that EVERYBODY speaks the QUEENS ENGLISH.. Just like me!!!!! Working on MECH you need to converse with your work mates.. If a jam or anything wrong needs to be done inside the H&S guildlines....

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