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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

DirtyHarry wrote:Those morons are 80's throwbacks, let your imagination take hold, and you'd swear blind that the ignorant responses were from arch buffoons,
Thatcher, Tebbit, Clarke, et al. These morons would even have the brass neck to call trade unionists, Dinosaurs! :shock:

I don't need, nor do I seek, the approval of a largely apathetic public, to do what I know to be right. The fact that part of our present struggle is to
keep our postal service in public hands, goes right over the heads of a large percentage of that public, quite a few of whom believe a worker should be
seen, and not heard. That's the result of 18 continuous years of Tory need for greed, and the following 10 years of a sham Labour government, and a
media mainly under the control of billionaires with little or no regard for basic workers rights. :cool


Well said H!
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Post by dvbuk55 »

They should ask themselves this:

Has the price of:

Gas
Electric
Rail Travel
Bus Travel

gone up or down and have they become more efficient since privatisation.
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

dvbuk55 wrote:They should ask themselves this:

Has the price of:

Gas
Electric
Rail Travel
Bus Travel

gone up or down and have they become more efficient since privatisation.
Or, try getting a bus after six of an evening outside of a big city.
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Post by BELIAL »

Or try counting the number of post privatisation corpses on the tracks, Blood money.
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BELIAL wrote:Or try counting the number of post privatisation corpses on the tracks, Blood money.
Sadly, that is true. Railwaymen and passengers mate.
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Post by duffer 61 »

Large sections of the media and the press have always been against us,unfortunately much of the public, especially stuck up c***s blindly follow that line.
As far as shopworkers,bankers etc who are hostile towards us then i can only put it down to sour grapes because we fight for our rights, whereas they are treated like s**t and have no union or strength of numbers to do anything about it.
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Post by BELIAL »

You might consider the fact that one of Leightons paymasters ,Wallmart has been unable to get a foothold in CALIFORNIA of all places despite trying for fourty years.

Why? Because the shopworkers union in that state loathes thier employment practises and working conditions.
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Post by barkersboy »

Read all the above. One thing I am concerned about is the derision of the small businesses and the public We do need the public on our side and we the CWU need to respond to small businesses by contacting them and imparting our views against the news of media and business spin doctors. Our picket line went to great lenghts to respond to business customers and the vast majority were shocked at RM proposals and very supportive of our stance. We have to build positive relationships with small businesses and the public. I am a postie and a member of the public and I have the information I need to take action. We need to share our knowledge with the public and gettheir suport.
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counting the cost

Post by mogsyboy »

Yes I am concerned too how small businesses and the public see us. I see things like we are defending the Post Office and sticking up for the public with the service. Then I read things on here where members of the public are called Useless Flotsam, morons, and c***s and live in cloud cuckoo land and should be left there.
It is not the public's fault it is our union in the way it has not got across the message of what we are fighting for. I am proud of this Union and the people who came out in support with me at our office, but sorry, to call people who have no understanding of our jobs and who we are supposed to be striking to help protect their service, names is wrong.
They only see what they read in the papers or on T.V. and if they don't here a counter argument then how can they have a balanced view?
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Post by janitor »

The businesses i deliver to asked what it was exactly we were fighting for, rather than just take what they had read in the media, once i told them what we were fighting for and what the proposed changes meant for them they seemed in tho whole fully supportive, as were most of the people we met on the picket line.
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Post by DirtyHarry »

barkersboy wrote:Read all the above. One thing I am concerned about is the derision of the small businesses and the public We do need the public on our side and we the CWU need to respond to small businesses by contacting them and imparting our views against the news of media and business spin doctors. Our picket line went to great lenghts to respond to business customers and the vast majority were shocked at RM proposals and very supportive of our stance. We have to build positive relationships with small businesses and the public. I am a postie and a member of the public and I have the information I need to take action. We need to share our knowledge with the public and gettheir suport.
bakersboy, the w*****s who left their moronic comments on the "Sentinal" site, are those weak-minded blobs of nothingness who look upon human
garbage like Leighton & Crozier as heroes. 24hr a day broadcasts on every television channel by either Billy Hayes, or Dave Ward, wouldn't make a
blind bit of difference to those tossers. :cool
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Re: counting the cost

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mogsyboy wrote:Yes I am concerned too how small businesses and the public see us. I see things like we are defending the Post Office and sticking up for the public with the service. Then I read things on here where members of the public are called Useless Flotsam, morons, and c***s and live in cloud cuckoo land and should be left there.
It is not the public's fault it is our union in the way it has not got across the message of what we are fighting for. I am proud of this Union and the people who came out in support with me at our office, but sorry, to call people who have no understanding of our jobs and who we are supposed to be striking to help protect their service, names is wrong.
They only see what they read in the papers or on T.V. and if they don't here a counter argument then how can they have a balanced view?
Mogsy, forget about "small businesses", and this now mythical "great British public", the fact of the matter is, when postal workers strike, the mail
grinds to a halt, nothing moves except a small number of SDs, and maybe a packet or two, thanks to RM's equally mythical "contingency plans". The
whole show gets back on the road only when RM management stops playing silly beggers, and negotiates rather than imposes it's lunatic business
plans, thus giving us the chance to improve, even only a little bit, our working lives. This is all done regardless of whether or not, "small businesses", or
"the great British public", like it or not. :cool
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Mate your on form tonight fella.... KEEP ON DOING THE DOO...


Luv it DIRTY me old mucka!!! :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause


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Tommo, mate................

Post by DirtyHarry »

I'd had a bit of a rough day, yesterday, and wasn't in any mood for the, "We need the public on side, or we're dooooomed", brigade. :Very Happy

Anyways mate, best of luck in your battle with dim-witted screws. :Applause :Applause :Very Happy
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Post by Shiggaddi »

2.5% for what is basically a paperboy or van drivers job is more than enough. This is the last bastion of the trade unions and their 1970s ideas. Thats more than I can do, and my pay increase was less than 1%. Modernisation is essential to any company - private or not. Let them get away with the strikes and perhaps they will all have lots of time as the private companies take up the slack.


So, whilst this person makes a comment about us having to be in line with the times and accept change, rather than be stuck in the 70s, calling those who deliver the news "paperboys" is rather sexist. Girls have been delivering the newspapers as well as the boys for decades. We have to go back far further than the 70s to find a time when it was just paperboys delivering the news.
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