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Breaking down after duty finish time

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postmanzach
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by postmanzach »

Basildon Bond wrote:
13 Jul 2024, 06:17
postmanzach wrote:
12 Jul 2024, 22:02
...so went back out to do one last parcel. Delivered it, get back in the van and it wouldn’t start.
On another tangent... what was wrong with the van? Bit of a random guess, but I'm thinking starter motor? "Tap" it a few times and it would kick into life.
Yes, it was indeed the starter motor. Thanks next time will try this!
Custard Jelly
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Custard Jelly »

When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
yellowbelly
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by yellowbelly »

Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
FirstPost
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by FirstPost »

yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
What if you've been told by a manager to do it?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by SpacePhoenix »

FirstPost wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 20:22
yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
What if you've been told by a manager to do it?
Get them to put it in writing if they want that done
Barnacle
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Barnacle »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 20:31
FirstPost wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 20:22
yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
What if you've been told by a manager to do it?
Get them to put it in writing if they want that done
One of ours did. It was written on a flip chart which I took a photo of for future use in case I was ever challenged.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
eastie
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by eastie »

just tell them run out of time due to breakdown.
Should have contacted office and got all your tracked taken off you if hes that worried about his bonus
Custard Jelly
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Custard Jelly »

yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
I don’t think there is a option on the pda “Delivery not attempted”
Barnacle
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Barnacle »

Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 21:46
yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
I don’t think there is a option on the pda “Delivery not attempted”
There is but you’d likely be shot for choosing that option because the manager would have to answer to that. Whereas with inaccessible, the item is cleared off their to do list.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
R5001
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by R5001 »

Yeah, not attempted is flat out a clear option on the "Record not delivered item" list.

Much like PDA failures resulting in people sent out to boxes that have been emptied but didn't scan because PDAs failed to load routes in the morning or other issues, managers have figured out which options need answers and prefer the "Oh, uh, roadworks yo" rather than "We f****d up." answer after a "pda failure" or "Barcode issue" scan.
yellowbelly
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by yellowbelly »

Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 21:46
yellowbelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:33
Custard Jelly wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:36
When you got back to office and found the undelivered track.

You should have scanned the track parcel has inaccessible. Then deliver the parcel the next day.

We are under lot of pressure anyway. So what if you missed a track parcel. Happens to lot of posties
Where the heck to people get the instruction to scan tracked that they can't deliver because they don't have
time to deliver/van failure/contracted hours/can't find it 'cos they don't know the area as 'Incaccessible' - that's
basically lying. It should be 'Delivery not attempted' and let the manager put up with the flak because they've not resourced correctly.
I don’t think there is a option on the pda “Delivery not attempted”
There is.

Just remember this is what they get for their mis-management and involving us in their lies:
Customer Operations Manager

Salary £43,677 - £48,045 (dependent on experience) plus potential 10% bonus and 25 days annual leave

...............so we need someone who is flexible and can excel under pressure. Customer focussed, team player, results driven, inspiring leader – you know how to get the best out of our people and deliver the best to our customers. You can empathise, motivate, coach, and collaborate, and will relish the opportunity to be part of our historic transformation from a letters business to a parcels business, whether that’s through reduced cost, innovative work practices or data driven ideas.
Frankie15
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Frankie15 »

Why rush back with the collection mail??? Finish your tracks. If you're back for the lorry you're back. It's no big deal missing it. Bosses moaning about OT annoy the life out of me. It's as if its out of their own pockets!! They're just worried about keeping their budgets sweet to get them their bonuses!!!
TopperGas
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by TopperGas »

Frankie15 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 14:55
Why rush back with the collection mail??? Finish your tracks. If you're back for the lorry you're back. It's no big deal missing it. Bosses moaning about OT annoy the life out of me. It's as if its out of their own pockets!! They're just worried about keeping their budgets sweet to get them their bonuses!!!
Would you think that way if you'd rushed to post a 1c letter or T24 item only to find it wasn't delivered because the collection missed the wagon?
Frankie15
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Frankie15 »

TopperGas wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 14:58
Frankie15 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 14:55
Why rush back with the collection mail??? Finish your tracks. If you're back for the lorry you're back. It's no big deal missing it. Bosses moaning about OT annoy the life out of me. It's as if its out of their own pockets!! They're just worried about keeping their budgets sweet to get them their bonuses!!!
Would you think that way if you'd rushed to post a 1c letter or T24 item only to find it wasn't delivered because the collection missed the wagon?
[/quote

I couldn't tell you what time the wagon comes to collect the collections at our office. We also haven't been told to get our collections back by a certain time either. It comes back when I come back. If I've missed one lorry there'll always be another. I certainly don't rush to bring it back. It comes back when my delivery is complete
Sean06
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Re: Breaking down after duty finish time

Post by Sean06 »

Frankie15 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 18:04
TopperGas wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 14:58
Frankie15 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 14:55
Why rush back with the collection mail??? Finish your tracks. If you're back for the lorry you're back. It's no big deal missing it. Bosses moaning about OT annoy the life out of me. It's as if its out of their own pockets!! They're just worried about keeping their budgets sweet to get them their bonuses!!!
Would you think that way if you'd rushed to post a 1c letter or T24 item only to find it wasn't delivered because the collection missed the wagon?
[/quote

I couldn't tell you what time the wagon comes to collect the collections at our office. We also haven't been told to get our collections back by a certain time either. It comes back when I come back. If I've missed one lorry there'll always be another. I certainly don't rush to bring it back. It comes back when my delivery is complete
Collections are due back at mc every day at a certain cut off time otherwise classed as a failure