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Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Kenfandango wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 15:36
In ours the managers tell us it's 20 in, 20 out. With a few exceptions, anyone with the sheer gall to attempt to take their 20 in the break room will get constantly pestered by managers asking them how long they've been, how long they plan to be there, where's this address, do you know if so and so is still here etc
Don’t you know - If a manager talks to you in your break you start your break from the beginning
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

Post by crazyshrew »

qwerty2 wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 16:05

Don’t you know - If a manager talks to you in your break you start your break from the beginning
I do enjoy it when I'm hunted down 15 in to my break to be asked a 'quick' question about a 739 or to get info to settle an customer issue.

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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Kenfandango wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 15:36
In ours the managers tell us it's 20 in, 20 out. With a few exceptions, anyone with the sheer gall to attempt to take their 20 in the break room will get constantly pestered by managers asking them how long they've been, how long they plan to be there, where's this address, do you know if so and so is still here etc

Play them at their own game.


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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

Post by ihatedogs »

twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 06:35
Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
Think we have about 120/130 posties in our office, I only ever see the same 30 odd in the restroom having their break :arrrghhh
In my old office of approximately 50 posties there were just three of us taking our break. Still see some of my old workmates, everyone takes their break now SISO has been implemented.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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ihatedogs wrote:
24 Jun 2024, 20:23
twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 06:35
Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
Think we have about 120/130 posties in our office, I only ever see the same 30 odd in the restroom having their break :arrrghhh
In my old office of approximately 50 posties there were just three of us taking our break. Still see some of my old workmates, everyone takes their break now SISO has been implemented.
It’s odd that SISO has not been implemented/enforced across the board.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Barnacle wrote:
24 Jun 2024, 20:26
ihatedogs wrote:
24 Jun 2024, 20:23
twoloops wrote:
23 Jun 2024, 06:35
Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
Think we have about 120/130 posties in our office, I only ever see the same 30 odd in the restroom having their break :arrrghhh
In my old office of approximately 50 posties there were just three of us taking our break. Still see some of my old workmates, everyone takes their break now SISO has been implemented.
It’s odd that SISO has not been implemented/enforced across the board.
Do you honestly know of anything in rm that is implemented across the board.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

Post by scoobymunster »

Managers seem to be able to alter SISO, a few in ours have kept their special "deals" which SISO was meant to have eradicated completely.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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scoobymunster wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 05:49
Managers seem to be able to alter SISO, a few in ours have kept their special "deals" which SISO was meant to have eradicated completely.
In ours they have been doing something to hide ghosting, which makes me sick. So others are harassed for arriving back early, while the ghosters are completing OT within work time and that’s ok 🙄
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Barnacle wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 05:52

In ours they have been doing something to hide ghosting, which makes me sick. So others are harassed for arriving back early, while the ghosters are completing OT within work time and that’s ok 🙄

It's because SISO only reveals the posties start and finish times to those higher up - they probably won't know if anyone has done any "ghosting" as that is written down and dealt with separately. Only their manager would know that and probably think that it is ok as long as the work gets done.

Its totally wrong that someone should finish early having got all their work done and be sent out to do additional work without any additional pay whilst someone else might be asked to do overtime all the time don't get penalised. The only way it's really going to be dealt with is if they speak out :whistle But in all honesty, why are they even finishing early anyway?
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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2chorizon wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 15:27
postmanzach wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 09:00
I took 5mins before I went out and stopped for 32
Mins whilst I was out and been called up on it.
Told suppose to only take 20 at a time.
Anyone got a link to annoying official about this?
It is 40 mins "OR" 20 + 20
No 5 & 32
So you can take 40 in one go whilst out? And what if you go over 9 hours you should get an extra 15 mins what then?
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
That’s mad.
The new people in our office work 8 hours then get 40mins pay deducted as it’s a legal requirement to have a break only theirs isn’t paid.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Bounced_Czech wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 18:04
postmanzach wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 16:53
Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
That’s mad.
The new people in our office work 8 hours then get 40mins pay deducted as it’s a legal requirement to have a break only theirs isn’t paid.
They are getting wages deducted?? :shock: are they paying new starts at your office using SISO times?
It’s like I said if they start at 8 and finished at 4 the manager takes off 40 minutes.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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Bounced_Czech wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 18:04
postmanzach wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 16:53
Bounced_Czech wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 14:46
At my office it seems to be frowned upon if you take a break. Everyone just works right through.
That’s mad.
The new people in our office work 8 hours then get 40mins pay deducted as it’s a legal requirement to have a break only theirs isn’t paid.
They are getting wages deducted?? :shock: are they paying new starts at your office using SISO times?
It’s like I said if they start at 8 and finished at 4 the manager takes off 40 minutes. New starters don’t get paid meal relief but have to have them by law.
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Re: Meal breaks: being forced to take 20 before you go out and 20 out. Is that correct?

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2chorizon wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 15:27
postmanzach wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 09:00
I took 5mins before I went out and stopped for 32
Mins whilst I was out and been called up on it.
Told suppose to only take 20 at a time.
Anyone got a link to annoying official about this?
It is 40 mins "OR" 20 + 20
No 5 & 32
Not according to the law.
https://www.papershift.com/en/lexicon/w ... tes%20once.
“If the working time is longer than 9 hours, 45 minutes of rest are required.
Time Split: The breaks can be divided into sections of 15 minutes each. It is also possible to divide it up to 15 minutes and 30 minutes once.
Without a rest period, no worker is allowed to work more than six hours at a time.
The design of the rest periods is left to the employee himself and the employer must not influence this.
The time of rest may be specified by the employer, but must be reasonable and timely.“