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are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

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Grads75
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by Grads75 »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:46
ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way. its as if he's been brainwashed. invasion of the bodysnatchers comes to mind. we've had CWU newsflashes on gate meetings, Zoom meetings with the link to view it. branch officials are coming out to ''explain'' the deal. its actually embarrassing to witness. they are almost begging us to vote yes. on the union whatsapp group theres been a questions and answers session. they are saying the delay to the vote will add a further 350 odd quid to the 500 quid lump sum. giving us 850 in back money!! a dangled carrot if ever there was one. they've also stated that a ''no vote' will mean RM will remove the 1.6 billion pound loan from the table thereby putting the company into administration, financial scaremongering, and blackmail of a sort. one lad asked are the EVRs coming back on the table? as lots of us just want out. yes was the answer, BUT not at the 2yrs pay previously agreed. its now down to 24 grand, the ill health is a maximum of 30 week (inc P.I.L.O.N) how the hell they expect people to vote for all this crap is beyond me but they are f***ing well trying, aye are they.
Is there going to be another round of vrs some already left our office but some wish we had taken it and now hoping for a second round???
Grads75
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by Grads75 »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 19:46
ours are. our unit rep was dead against this deal last week. now, he's going round the office on a ''whisper campaign'' trying to get people to see the deal the unions way. its as if he's been brainwashed. invasion of the bodysnatchers comes to mind. we've had CWU newsflashes on gate meetings, Zoom meetings with the link to view it. branch officials are coming out to ''explain'' the deal. its actually embarrassing to witness. they are almost begging us to vote yes. on the union whatsapp group theres been a questions and answers session. they are saying the delay to the vote will add a further 350 odd quid to the 500 quid lump sum. giving us 850 in back money!! a dangled carrot if ever there was one. they've also stated that a ''no vote' will mean RM will remove the 1.6 billion pound loan from the table thereby putting the company into administration, financial scaremongering, and blackmail of a sort. one lad asked are the EVRs coming back on the table? as lots of us just want out. yes was the answer, BUT not at the 2yrs pay previously agreed. its now down to 24 grand, the ill health is a maximum of 30 week (inc P.I.L.O.N) how the hell they expect people to vote for all this crap is beyond me but they are f***ing well trying, aye are they.
Is there going to be another round of vrs some already left our office but some wish we had taken it and now hoping for a second round???
enskied
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by enskied »

Not seen or heard anything, the union executive are as absent as they ever were.

It's still NO
scotchy1962
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by scotchy1962 »

We are all big boys who live on a big boys world, the reps and union can tell you anything they like but you must make your own mind up.
I dont really care much to having some rep ramming it down my throat to vote yes/no. I am a adult and have eyes and a brain to use so can make my own mind up thanks very much.
I know the social media campaign by union and management is starting to kick off but again think for yourselves.
Lets be truthful here and see the deal for what it is, a pile of crud, but it might be the best pile of crud we can get, only you can decide for yourself.
Dont be swayed by anything you read or hear, just read the agreement and decide if you can live with it.
Doesnt work for me but again dont be swayed by that i am not the font of all knowledge.
Its your vote use it wisely!!
denhamhoop
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by denhamhoop »

Our reps are recommending we vote No it's probably the only reason I might ever considering Yes to this deal
hfcbkk1875
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by hfcbkk1875 »

Our reps are voting no and not promoting the sellout.

Vote no
Remove the enemy within the cwu.
Remove ward,furry and the shysters on pec .
DirtyHarry
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Re: are your reps trying to sell you the deal?

Post by DirtyHarry »

Still waiting to hear our area reps take on this deal.

Our unit rep is sending out mixed signals.

This deal won't sell well, won't sell easily.