Cheers Terry

[Kaning It]

I was lucky I qualified for payment, but have much sympathy for people who didn't the system for calculating holiday pay seems very unfair . Wouldn't a fairer way be to add up all the hours you have worked in a 6 month period then just divide that total by 26 given you a fairer average and better chance of reaching the 8hour threshold for each month it would surely then stop the injustice where someone's worked alot of hours but just have a blip in one month. The current system means someone could work 48hours ot over 6 months and receive a payment where as someone else could work say 200 hours over 6 months and receive nothing which is ridiculous and creates a unhappy workforce.

Exactly why the deal should never have been agreed. Agency staff get their holiday pay based on average pay over previous 12 months (as is their legal right) and permanent staff should get the same.

[andyman606]

First year I did £4000 overtime (262 hrs) average 22 hrs per month
Second year did £7700 overtime -over my 25 hrs contract(504 hrs) average 42 hrs per month(generally 10 per week!)
I know for a fact in both years I did overtime far past 8 hrs each month every month but sometimes you have to take a holiday yer know!
I received £460 back pay that covers about 2 and a quarter weeks of holiday backpay making my hours up to full-time when on holiday.
No clarification on the low amount, missing by my calculations £450+ I assume this is to do with me having the audacity to take 3 week's holiday in a row each year and not coming straight back and getting overtime in the forth week.
So thou shall lose your holiday backpay for two whole six months as you have broken the rule of the 8hrmonth god by breaking the one of the six commandment your punishment for such slothery is banishment from the cwu promised lands. Thou shalt not rest for fear of losing dues owed for such rest this is the test of Acas

[woofwoof]

First year I did £4000 overtime (262 hrs) average 22 hrs per month
Second year did £7700 overtime -over my 25 hrs contract(504 hrs) average 42 hrs per month(generally 10 per week!)
I know for a fact in both years I did overtime far past 8 hrs each month every month but sometimes you have to take a holiday yer know!
I received £460 back pay that covers about 2 and a quarter weeks of holiday backpay making my hours up to full-time when on holiday.
No clarification on the low amount, missing by my calculations £450+ I assume this is to do with me having the audacity to take 3 week's holiday in a row each year and not coming straight back and getting overtime in the forth week.
So thou shall lose your holiday backpay for two whole six months as you have broken the rule of the 8hrmonth god by breaking the one of the six commandment your punishment for such slothery is banishment from the cwu promised lands. Thou shalt not rest for fear of losing dues owed for such rest this is the test of Acas

Is this gonna be the worst deal ever agreed from the CWU

[andyman606]

Definitely maybe

[worktotime]

First year I did £4000 overtime (262 hrs) average 22 hrs per month
Second year did £7700 overtime -over my 25 hrs contract(504 hrs) average 42 hrs per month(generally 10 per week!)
I know for a fact in both years I did overtime far past 8 hrs each month every month but sometimes you have to take a holiday yer know!
I received £460 back pay that covers about 2 and a quarter weeks of holiday backpay making my hours up to full-time when on holiday.
No clarification on the low amount, missing by my calculations £450+ I assume this is to do with me having the audacity to take 3 week's holiday in a row each year and not coming straight back and getting overtime in the forth week.
So thou shall lose your holiday backpay for two whole six months as you have broken the rule of the 8hrmonth god by breaking the one of the six commandment your punishment for such slothery is banishment from the cwu promised lands. Thou shalt not rest for fear of losing dues owed for such rest this is the test of Acas

Is this gonna be the worst deal ever agreed from the CWU

the CWUs silence says it all as with all the other ongoing issues as well .

[Chelseablue]

Find it really really strange not a peep from the union regarding the disasters all round the countrys offices . Remember some of the ballots and walk outs in the past for trivial things compared to this.

[Kaning It]

No reason why the ongoing claims, with the new ones from those not getting holiday pay because they missed the artificial target of one month in 6, won’t be successful and lead to permanent staff getting paid the same as agency (average pay from last 12 months).

RM’s lawyers have probably factored in that not everyone would withdraw and that people who lose out in this current round will go ahead with the Tribunal process. RM will either have to do a new deal to settle or take their chances that a judge agrees with some of the outcomes we are seeing from the unnecessary criteria.

RM will still have gained as everyone who withdrew has accepted their payment and so RM are protected from a further large scale back pay (and of course this payout was limited by the process taking so long and the Union agreeing the deal).