November Lockdown

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 01:23

Well I am 99.9% this is sure because of the rantings of SAGE and it is here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... stmas.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and here https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... l-22934490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and here https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... xperts-say" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; So the panic begins once again next week or tomorrow not here to poke fun at stockpile world ending preppers. I wonder if this is the right strategy he is portraying himself as the saviour of Christmas and saving Christmas for us all but what will be left next year nothing no shops unless you go to a supermarket for that is all will be left next year mark my words. The things we should all ask of our government is why do this again when it did not work the first time did it? Next why did you not get test and trace ever working? and why did you not help the self employed to self isolate taxi drivers and others if the virus was so deadly? Why did you not improve heath service capacity and training of a basic kind towards nursing our ill given that they had six months head up warning if not more. Some people on here would rather have me not on here and ask these questions of our government it's response and lack of action. Well I will tell you one thing parliament is a shadow of it's self and local elections of councillors and mayors and other elected officials have been postponed till when and get an appointment with your local MP forget it and if that was not enough and more important this will impact upon the mental health of our nation. This action will never solve the innate problem in that we will never be free of this virus and must embrace it and smother it with all the care we can give to all those who fall victim of it and that does not stop after they get chucked out of the hospital but is costly but worth every penny!

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 31 Oct 2020, 09:03

I agree. The government locked the country down in March and unfortunately they left it too late. A bit like locking the stable door once the horse has bolted. Why if cases are rising and the tier system seems to be failing,why wait till next week?

But let's be honest, a lockdown wont work if people don't always follow the guidelines and the law cannot always enforce it. That's why the tier system was never going to work. People not wearing facemasks, revellers not socially distancing themselves in pubs etc etc etc

ddtc · Post by **ddtc** » 31 Oct 2020, 09:27

All of us have worked since march so lets be honest it was never a lockdown. Travelling great distances for exercise, more than one person from one household shopping for essentials, people not keeping distance, no masks etc.

Regional lockdowns are a bit of a joke when government announces when so on so will go into force. Idiots then piling the streets the night before dancing drunk.

Test and trace? People value their privacy and don't want them the government to know when they pop into ann summers for lube. Then blame the system which isn't enforced when they can't remember who they were near to or where they have been.

To wear or not to wear a mask debate. Illegal raves, weddings, numerous mass protests throughout this year, the list goes on.

Blame lies with everyone not just the government.

GRS · Post by **GRS** » 31 Oct 2020, 09:49

We have a real problem in this country of doing something simple we’ve been asked to do such as wearing a mask. It’s like a load of kids rebelling against the headmaster at school. In our office we were asked by the DOM to wear a mask to try and protect one another, but no the insecure ones who are so worried that they look daft won’t wear one then we end up with the “well if they’re not wearing one then I’m not” mentality. No wonder no-one can get a handle on this thing when attitudes like this pervade through society. Funnily enough the ones who won’t wear a mask are the same dirty bastards who don’t wash their hands on leaving the toilet and are known to have pissed over the toilet seats and floors!!

Post by **rambo1** » 31 Oct 2020, 09:53

Agree totally. It did not work the first time, so why now? The economy is gonna be so knackered next yr that the next generation are going to be paying for it in taxes for the rest of their lives....if they are lucky enough to have a job. Lock down everything.....oh, except schools oh and supermarkets oh and key workers can still go to work and mingle obviously at 2m or 1m+ mask ,you know like we do in royal mail. It's a joke and not a funny one. They are trashing the economy and it's not even gonna have the desired effect. Using the promise of Christmas to get the lemmings on board. Rishi will be stepping down soon as he totally disagrees with the current narrative and who would want to do his job next yr trying to clean up the pile of poo the country will be in? The scientists will be forever remembered for bringing the world to a halt and I'm not talking about covid.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 10:25

postslippete wrote:I agree. The government locked the country down in March and unfortunately they left it too late. A bit like locking the stable door once the horse has bolted. Why if cases are rising and the tier system seems to be failing,why wait till next week?

But let's be honest, a lockdown wont work if people don't always follow the guidelines and the law cannot always enforce it. That's why the tier system was never going to work. People not wearing facemasks, revellers not socially distancing themselves in pubs etc etc etc

Well they did but it would not of made any difference apparently and I could agree with that looking at the whole world as every nation in the world has this virus. As for not following the rules guidelines it is a pretty flimsy argument given that the rest of the world is suffering just the same and if it did not work the first time why would it work now?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 10:31

ddtc wrote:All of us have worked since march so lets be honest it was never a lockdown. Travelling great distances for exercise, more than one person from one household shopping for essentials, people not keeping distance, no masks etc.

Regional lockdowns are a bit of a joke when government announces when so on so will go into force. Idiots then piling the streets the night before dancing drunk.

Test and trace? People value their privacy and don't want them the government to know when they pop into ann summers for lube. Then blame the system which isn't enforced when they can't remember who they were near to or where they have been.

To wear or not to wear a mask debate. Illegal raves, weddings, numerous mass protests throughout this year, the list goes on.

Blame lies with everyone not just the government.

Well we are part of the test and trace and also we deliver millions of prescriptions for whom we are responsible for their medication getting to them and even if we totally eradicated the virus it would have come back with world travel just look at the world!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 10:41

GRS wrote:We have a real problem in this country of doing something simple we’ve been asked to do such as wearing a mask. It’s like a load of kids rebelling against the headmaster at school. In our office we were asked by the DOM to wear a mask to try and protect one another, but no the insecure ones who are so worried that they look daft won’t wear one then we end up with the “well if they’re not wearing one then I’m not” mentality. No wonder no-one can get a handle on this thing when attitudes like this pervade through society. Funnily enough the ones who won’t wear a mask are the same dirty bastards who don’t wash their hands on leaving the toilet and are known to have pissed over the toilet seats and floors!!

One don't just generalize just because of the ones you speak of on here about pissing on seats and not warring masks some people cannot ware one for medical reasons, And they don't not seam to work look at Spain or France or Italy they have the same or worse infection rates and masks and enforcement is 100% so they don't work do they. If they did we would all be talking about how good they are where no one is citing the how good the French the Spanish or Italian nations have done with face masks and lockdowns.

ddtc · Post by **ddtc** » 31 Oct 2020, 10:58

Were we ever in an actual lockdown? I don't call the lockdown that happened in March a lockdown.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 11:03

rambo1 wrote:Agree totally. It did not work the first time, so why now? The economy is gonna be so knackered next yr that the next generation are going to be paying for it in taxes for the rest of their lives....if they are lucky enough to have a job. Lock down everything.....oh, except schools oh and supermarkets oh and key workers can still go to work and mingle obviously at 2m or 1m+ mask ,you know like we do in royal mail. It's a joke and not a funny one. They are trashing the economy and it's not even gonna have the desired effect. Using the promise of Christmas to get the lemmings on board. Rishi will be stepping down soon as he totally disagrees with the current narrative and who would want to do his job next yr trying to clean up the pile of poo the country will be in? The scientists will be forever remembered for bringing the world to a halt and I'm not talking about covid.

Well I agree the thing is tax rises will not cut it they will slash the welfare state school meals are just the start pensions the free health care we get through the NHS will be a paid for service everything will be costed and payed for by the individual and the state will exist only as a means of control not a helping hand in times of need. One can only imagine how the whole world will be after this it is safe to say at least I and most on here lived a relatively privileged life compared to the future children of this nation and the world. Well we were told flatten the sombrero 12 weeks then it will be over by Christmas and March next year truth is they don't know themselves and it will never be over this virus will be here longer than anybody on this planet will. Lockdowns don't work they buy time but because they wasted the last lockdown we don't have the money anymore to buy time it is ironic that an 83 year-old pensioner named Maureen knows more about economics than Rishi or Boris or the rest of the ship of fools we have called a government!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 11:11

ddtc wrote:Were we ever in an actual lockdown? I don't call the lockdown that happened in March a lockdown.

We were did you not see more pigeons on the street than people just because we worked our arses off we still needed to deliver prescriptions and leaflets saying stick with it in 12 weeks we can get rid of the virus and here we are again. Don't worry lads it will all be over by Christmas some fool once said and after 4 years and 20 million dead sounds kind of familiar does it not!

ddtc · Post by **ddtc** » 31 Oct 2020, 11:35

k979aaa wrote: We were did you not see more pigeons on the street than people

Soft lockdown yes, proper lockdown no. Everyone bent the rules and you know it. I don't call a lockdown proper when people were allowed to exercise a 100miles away for their daily exercise. Or even bosses who stayed at home kept their non essential businesess open endangering their staff. List goes on and you know the lock down wasn't a proper lockdown.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 11:52

ddtc wrote:
k979aaa wrote: We were did you not see more pigeons on the street than people
Soft lockdown yes, proper lockdown no. Everyone bent the rules and you know it. I don't call a lockdown proper when people were allowed to exercise a 100miles away for their daily exercise. Or even bosses who stayed at home kept their non essential businesess open endangering their staff. List goes on and you know the lock down wasn't a proper lockdown.

I think lockdown lost it's illusion when Dominic Cummings was testing his eyesight around Barnard castle and his trip to Durham and Professor Fergusson and Catherine Calderwood Chief medical officer of Scotland whom all were caught breaking the rules they told us all to follow.
Do as I say not as I do attitude that has pervaded society even the priminister was shaking hands in parliament after telling us all not to do so!

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 31 Oct 2020, 13:37

We are unfortunately paying the price for the non mask wearing, covid denying tin foil hat brigade, the f**k everyone else I'm going to benidorm and the eat out to suit myself brigade.

We have completely wasted the opportunity to prepare and educate for the inevitable second wave because apparently it's cooler to undermine public health messaging than to follow it.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Oct 2020, 14:06

Woody Guthrie wrote:We are unfortunately paying the price for the non mask wearing, covid denying tin foil hat brigade, the f**k everyone else I'm going to benidorm and the eat out to suit myself brigade.

We have completely wasted the opportunity to prepare and educate for the inevitable second wave because apparently it's cooler to undermine public health messaging than to follow it.

I would not blame the people of our nation for it is just as bad all over the world but I would blame the leadership for wasting the first lockdown and not making an example of Dominic Cummings started all this. Covid-19 brain or not this is not clear leadership for a nation. And it is shocking how bad test and trace is and the lack of investment in first line defence services nurses and doctors hospitals. The thing is once the genie has exited the bottle we cannot put it back in we will all live or die by this virus but don't stop living!