short & longs

cybergrinder · Post by **cybergrinder** » 03 May 2007, 20:59

anybody on this.
We have been told that we will be doing short days on tuesdays and saturdays and long days the rest.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 03 May 2007, 21:03

Have not heard it officially or unofficially but its something i've been expecting. However this year Saturdays have been busy days and not quiet like they used to be.

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 03 May 2007, 21:19

I have heard this mentioned a long time back ,but dont know of any office where it is practise.This has to be agreed with your unit rep under I/R framework before changing duty times im certain of that,as they will start doing what they want when they want.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 03 May 2007, 21:24

They can't just bring it in without negotiation,ok they can but you then put in a disagreement and walk.
Anyway,national agreement is 3-30hrs for a walk and they CAN'T make that longer.
Moved to Blue Shirts

KawasakiKid · Post by **KawasakiKid** » 03 May 2007, 22:15

Our rep briefed us last Fri our DOM is after shorts and longs. He's gone into disagreement as the CWU is not negotiating any efficiency measures until a pay deal is sorted. It would appear from the posts so far that this is something RM want nationaly. Watch this space

--------------------KWACK

naeagain · Post by **naeagain** » 04 May 2007, 14:46

I'm a rural postie and i'm out aboot 0745 and i'm back between 1315 and 1330 most days. so thats a 5hr 30/45 delivery. i've only 220 stops and i do about 75/80 miles aday up the worst farm tracks you'll ever see!

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 May 2007, 14:49

naeagain wrote:I'm a rural postie and i'm out aboot 0745 and i'm back between 1315 and 1330 most days. so thats a 5hr 30/45 delivery. i've only 220 stops and i do about 75/80 miles aday up the worst farm tracks you'll ever see!

So how come,is it different for drivers then?

naeagain · Post by **naeagain** » 04 May 2007, 14:56

I don't know! Think it might be a energy thing! I don't walk a fraction of what town posties do! My delivery times don't change much because i deliver to about 95% of households everyday. The only time my delivery times change is when the snow comes and you can add on hours.

theargyspy · Post by **theargyspy** » 04 May 2007, 16:34

It may not be a popular view but instead of trying to make us work short days when light (Tuesday and Saturday)
why don't they turn it on its head and sort out the mail so its more evenly spread over 5 days Mon - Fri ....we all like
our lighter Tuesdays but if instead of being loaded up like a carthorse on thursday and friday with crap they encouraged customers,
or organized better the flow of non time critical mail more evenly over the week so each weekday our delivery's are more or less the same,
sure it could be done if they put their minds to it

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 04 May 2007, 17:48

Isnt longs and shorts a admission from managers that as the week goes on deliveries just cant be done within duty time.

Saturdays are getting heavier in my office as well. Mailsort three switching to DSA is part of the problem!

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 04 May 2007, 18:55

timings for rurals especially with a van have never ben negotiated,same with small rural del office,different delivery rules and everything,if you complain you get told you have a van,if you complain about the legnth you get told its a rural the hours dont count

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 May 2007, 20:15

theargyspy wrote:It may not be a popular view but instead of trying to make us work short days when light (Tuesday and Saturday)
why don't they turn it on its head and sort out the mail so its more evenly spread over 5 days Mon - Fri ....we all like
our lighter Tuesdays but if instead of being loaded up like a carthorse on thursday and friday with crap they encouraged customers,
or organized better the flow of non time critical mail more evenly over the week so each weekday our delivery's are more or less the same,
sure it could be done if they put their minds to it

Been talking bout this for years,i'd rather a heaver Tues and the other days a bit less.
Some how they can't work out the logistics of it all.

But saying that WHAT is the deal with Tuesdays,don't no one work Mondays or summin,it's always flummuxed me.

Post by **darude** » 04 Jun 2007, 15:11

Been told were having a wtl on shorts & longs.We've had this before,but it came to nothing.Any one else having same meeting tomorrow.Or is it just another one of our Dom's bright ideas ?

KawasakiKid · Post by **KawasakiKid** » 04 Jun 2007, 15:42

darude wrote:Been told were having a wtl on shorts & longs.We've had this before,but it came to nothing.Any one else having same meeting tomorrow.Or is it just another one of our Dom's bright ideas ?

Darude mate you and your mates must oppose Longs and shorts, there is a CWU instruction not to negotiate or accept any changes until the national dispute has been sorted. DO you have an office Rep?----------------A KWAK in time???????????

Post by **darude** » 04 Jun 2007, 16:04

Thanks for the info Kawasakikid.Our old rep as just finished.Totally p-----d off with the job.Pity really, good at his job.
Ill mention what you said about the unions stance.

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