Minimum wage to rise

[voodou7628]

The writing is on the wall all ready for royal mail as to the issues off staff retention. Come next year when uso changes kick in there will be a mass exodus when people realise that there will be no VRs on top of that with minimim wage set to rise to £12.70 increased work loads triple mail why would anyone want to stay its there buisness to run and its been run into the ground i have almost 30 years done like many before me and about 50% of the senior guys in work currently saying the same its time to go what use to be a be a difficult decision to leave has now become the only decision.

[Wullie10]

Anyone reaching 60 has to take their NRA60 if they want to or not. So add £10,000ish a year to your salary with legacy payments and overtime ( to help out with staff shortages) if you're daft enough. Then under a Labour government you are classed as the super rich to be taxed accordingly. That's why I packed it all in. I was willing to carry on , I'm certainly fit enough but as you rightly say , to be punished with bigger work load by the company and financially by the government makes no sense at all. I'm sure the company don't mind the loss of older staff as they seem quite happy to employ new recruits on lesser terms who won't be hanging around for 30 months let alone 30 years.

[Newpoet]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

[TopperGas]

The writing is on the wall all ready for royal mail as to the issues off staff retention. Come next year when uso changes kick in there will be a mass exodus when people realise that there will be no VRs on top of that with minimim wage set to rise to £12.70 increased work loads triple mail why would anyone want to stay its there buisness to run and its been run into the ground i have almost 30 years done like many before me and about 50% of the senior guys in work currently saying the same its time to go what use to be a be a difficult decision to leave has now become the only decision.

If you have over 30 years service why are you worried about the minimum wage increasing as it won't affect you? You sense as far as RM are concerned the more legacy contract workers leave the better, as at some point you can see all legacy and new contracts being equalised, when the latter out number the former.

[smok3y666]

Keep paying your subs and voting yes like a good boy.

[Woody84]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

[Mike G]

To think when I started a posties wage was almost 3x the then minimum wage, and a posties job was a lot simpler and hassle free back then than it is now.

Why would anyone be prepared to still be a postie now with all the hassle, aggravation and bullshit that comes with the job (all from management) for barely more than the current minimum wage that you can earn for stacking shelves in a supermarket or pottering around garden centre watering plants.

[mjd24]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

[Woody84]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

Yup and I think you are.

£2 more an hour, plus paid meal reliefs, plus no Sundays etc.

Not knocking legacy contract folk btw. Union big wigs should hang their heads in shame for allowing it to go on for 3 years (with a lot more years to come).

[TopperGas]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

Yup and I think you are.

£2 more an hour, plus paid meal reliefs, plus no Sundays etc.

Not knocking legacy contract folk btw. Union big wigs should hang their heads in shame for allowing it to go on for 3 years (with a lot more years to come).

What do you propose the union do to stop it happening, as nobody is going to support them if they did ever go down the IA route?

[Jonathan Alsatian]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

Yup and I think you are.

£2 more an hour, plus paid meal reliefs, plus no Sundays etc.

Not knocking legacy contract folk btw. Union big wigs should hang their heads in shame for allowing it to go on for 3 years (with a lot more years to come).

You should be blaming the company not the union. At the end of the day the union are the only people fighting for equalisation. Without a union the company would NEVER equalise the contracts ever , at least there is an agreement in place even if the company are trying to drag things out as long as they can to save money. I'm expecting all the union bashers to have a go at me but I its about time they realised the company is the enemy.....not the union, new entrants, agency staff, DPR drivers or anyone else I've seen slated on these forums as being responsible for the end of the good old days

[postmanplod2025]

the union only fight for their own interests never the paying members that was illustrated when they forced us all on strike pretending to strike for posties conditions when, what we were really striking for, was to save area reps from being removed from their positions. Once the company and union sorted that out, the posties got completely shat on and forever will, weakest self serving union ever. If u think the union are fighting for equalising terms and conditions for u new starters ur as gullable as ..., if royal mail decided to up new starters terms and conditions it will have nothing to do with the union but they will take the credit for it as they usually do blowing their own trumpets, reality is union is compeltely powerless

[Newpoet]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

My contract says 12.54

[Newpoet]

That's interesting. As a new starter We get 12.54 so it'll have to increase to at least the minimum but damn if it stays there then its a minimum wage job ... Damn that's bad

We’re now on £13.06

Still a joke though.

Is £13.06 the hourly wage on the new contracts? Pretty sure us “legacy” staff are on over £15 an hour now.

My contract as of 4 weeks ago says 12.54 per hour

[Saturn1]

What do you propose the union do to stop it happening, as nobody is going to support them if they did ever go down the IA route?

That has been said time and time again. The union could have refused to agree any deal in 2023 until two tier working was removed. They had the backing of the members for strike action and ignored it.

The claim the company imposed it and there was nothing they could do is unequivocally false. Especially when DW was making claims that "two tier working was a red line they wouldn't cross" and they won't "pull up the drawbridge on the next generation of postal workers".