Pay rise

[RM0942]

When is this new 4.2% pay rise starting?
From September pay ?

[clashcityrocker]

We haven't agreed it yet.

[fluffysnow]

August 23rd

[Sean06]

August 23rd

How can that be when ballot only closes on 26th august.

[Sean06]

August 23rd

How can that be when ballot only closes on 26th august.an only if its a yes vote will be implemented in last week of sept.

[ted_e_bear]

August 23rd

How can that be when ballot only closes on 26th august.an only if its a yes vote will be implemented in last week of sept.

Perhaps they've already decided it's a yes vote

[michael147]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

[loyalsnail]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

[Smoothbackground]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

The business runs a weekly payroll for the majority of frontline staff. Payroll should therefore be able to get their ducks in a row in the space of one week, though let’s call it two weeks to be generous and to allow for some wriggle room for minor tech issues. In line with what others on here are saying, and of course assuming a Yes vote, the backpay should be paid to us by no later than the end of September.

[yellowbelly]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

Not long - it's what computers are for. If they haven't got a software package in place that can do this then they need to get a grip. They seem to be able to implement new tax codes, NI increases etc, so why not a pay rise?

They managed to deduct pay during the strikes pretty quickly even though they didn't know day to day who was going to be on strike or in work.

[ted_e_bear]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

The business runs a weekly payroll for the majority of frontline staff. Payroll should therefore be able to get their ducks in a row in the space of one week, though let’s call it two weeks to be generous and to allow for some wriggle room for minor tech issues. In line with what others on here are saying, and of course assuming a Yes vote, the backpay should be paid to us by no later than the end of September.

Too right, obviously I'm not an expert on payroll processes but surely it can't be that difficult to uplift everybodies pay rate by 4.2%, the info regarding overtime shows on the holiday pay section of the people app so they already have that to hand, saying it's a massive job is like the bollox our manager comes out with when someone asks for a different day off or something equally straightforward.

[Sean06]

Has it not already been agreed it will be paid last fri in sept.assuming its a yes vote.think it was postman who put it up on here.

[Hyrrokkin]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

Not long - it's what computers are for. If they haven't got a software package in place that can do this then they need to get a grip. They seem to be able to implement new tax codes, NI increases etc, so why not a pay rise?

They managed to deduct pay during the strikes pretty quickly even though they didn't know day to day who was going to be on strike or in work.

Correct it's all computerized so should not be a massive deal - but this is the CWU & RM so expect some issues

[comeracing]

Vote No

[loyalsnail]

The logical time would be the last Friday in September.
That of course is reliant on it being accepted in the forthcoming ballot.
This would give payroll 4 weeks to sort it all out and tie in with those on monthly pay.
I suppose a second alternative would be the last pay day in October for similar reasons.
You would have hoped payroll would not need so long to get their ducks in a row but it would not entirely surprise me.

100s of pay grades with 1,000s of pay codes and pay levels requiring changing

Changes to be applied to a population of 80,000 weekly employees and 30,000 monthly employees who want to be paid correctly, would be up in arms if they weren't and who cover thousands of niche scenarios requiring validating.

Dealing with a third party payroll software provider / outsourced technical experts who have conflicting and wide ranging priorities across a suite of multinational companies, each vying to be priority number one in the pecking order.

Built in contingency so as to provide the CWU and the business with a guaranteed delivery date, as opposed to one that may need pushing back repeatedly if timescales slipped.

All whilst actually paying 80,000 weekly paid employees on a pay cycle that starts again for the next week as soon as the current week is finished.

How long should it take for payroll to get their ducks in a row?

The business runs a weekly payroll for the majority of frontline staff. Payroll should therefore be able to get their ducks in a row in the space of one week, though let’s call it two weeks to be generous and to allow for some wriggle room for minor tech issues. In line with what others on here are saying, and of course assuming a Yes vote, the backpay should be paid to us by no later than the end of September.

One week... The SAP payroll system gurus won't even look at it within a week, never mind action it.