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Uso agreement

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hans solo
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Uso agreement

Post by hans solo »

Vicious rumour going around up here that talks over uso agreement have collapsed and cwu have walked away
SkiSunday
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hans solo wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 10:08
Vicious rumour going around up here that talks over uso agreement have collapsed and cwu have walked away
Need more info, because let's be honest if they are thinking about strike action that horse bolted 5 years ago.
hans solo
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No more info
Cwu should update
Neverwasadoor
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Re: Uso agreement

Post by Neverwasadoor »

I’m up here also 🙂
And I’m also hearing murmurs it’s not working in current form (shock horror) and need to think again.
Let’s face it it’s not going to give RM the savings it wants as well and they would be back for more after doing all this.
jessicarabbit
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Re: Uso agreement

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Executive action incoming
claystones
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Post by claystones »

Lets send a strongly worded letter that always works
Playmail
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Funny coz I'm sure cwu were selling it to ofcom not that long ago
SMS1969
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Re: Uso agreement

Post by SMS1969 »

Neverwasadoor wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 11:26
I’m up here also 🙂
And I’m also hearing murmurs it’s not working in current form (shock horror) and need to think again.
Let’s face it it’s not going to give RM the savings it wants as well and they would be back for more after doing all this.
It was never going to work- I thought the union mentioned doing one and a half duties on the combined days, instead of both? And that would still be a struggle.
hans solo
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Re: Uso agreement

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Playmail wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 12:42
Funny coz I'm sure cwu were selling it to ofcom not that long ago
Yes they were but RM want to pish it through without agreement
I will leave the typo in 😇
toonshola
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The whole point of the USO change is for Royal Mail to save hundred of millions per year yet we have the deluded CWU thinking they will get an agreement where duties will be put back in to help make deliveries with double/triple mail achievable. Royal Mail we’re never going to concede in any meaningful way.
One of two things will happen, a watered down agreement that can be read 17 different ways so Royal Mail can weasel out of adding resources/hours to achieve quality of service or executive action.
The union once again have walked us down the garden path with little dreams of improved attendance patterns, reduced fatigue and achievable workload. It’s all fraud.
hewittinspain
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I can't see these changes coming in this September to be honest
SMS1969
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hewittinspain wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 17:52
I can't see these changes coming in this September to be honest
It won’t be that soon, sometime next year after ‘peak’.
TopperGas
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Re: Uso agreement

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jessicarabbit wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 12:20
Executive action incoming
The perfect move by the CWU, as they can claim it was gone without their approval even though for months they've been claiming the only way RM can be saved is by introducing the USO reforms. Don't forget a few weeks ago they were suggesting we were only walking 12K steps on average a day.

The first step to reform should have just been drop 2c deliveries on a Saturday, going straight to alternative days was always going to be too big a move.
norris9
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How about something less convoluted. A 5 day letter service. You barely even need to plan for that, you surely wouldn't even need trials.

To keep the people happy that want the 6 day service to remain (the government/customers), just run a Special Delivery service on the day 1st class/2nd class letters aren't delivered. Obviously Tracked parcels would still be delivered 7 days a week.

Who cares if there's redundancies, we are already understaffed, already have high turnover, so redundancies can be limited by that anyway, natural wastage would probably be enough to bring us down to the right number of staff if you just give it time. Plus people want redundancy money. Who does redundancy harm if it's voluntary - nobody.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Uso agreement

Post by ted_e_bear »

TopperGas wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 18:46
jessicarabbit wrote:
20 Jul 2025, 12:20
Executive action incoming
The perfect move by the CWU, as they can claim it was gone without their approval even though for months they've been claiming the only way RM can be saved is by introducing the USO reforms. Don't forget a few weeks ago they were suggesting we were only walking 12K steps on average a day.

The first step to reform should have just been drop 2c deliveries on a Saturday, going straight to alternative days was always going to be too big a move.
Agreed, a great move, bale out and let it get f****d up just like it would have if they'd been involved anyway, and yes they should have started with parcels and 1c only Saturdays absolutely ages ago, it would soon have been accepted as the norm with hardly anyone on the receiving side noticing any difference.