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CHOOSING BETWEEN NEW SHIFT PATTERNS

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DM66
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CHOOSING BETWEEN NEW SHIFT PATTERNS

Post by DM66 »

Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
A2B
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Post by A2B »

DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
We do the Wallington system (banked weeks) and hope to stay with that with the additional Saturday when it comes time for us to vote on duty patterns.

Can be a long drag on occasions waiting for your next week off but as you mention it can work out well if you plan your annual leave around the week off, the extra Saturday on the 3rd week should help out.
Clappedoutpostie
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

How come u haven’t got the choice of 2 in 5 or 4 day week?
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
You should have been offered 2 in 5 sat off
Preffered option in most offices
Or 4 day week but a shorter sat would mean near 10 hr shifts
jbo5066
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Post by jbo5066 »

Depends on how many non drivers there are in the office as to what shift patterns you are offered.
tramssirhc
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Re: CHOOSING BETWEEN NEW SHIFT PATTERNS

Post by tramssirhc »

DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
The Wallington rotation is 5 weeks on, 1 week off. You do not 'bank' time. Its a rotation pattern which condenses the working time into a shorter period. In order to facilitate an additional Saturday off in this rotation your working will be further condensed. If that additional Saturday is prior to your week off that's quality time off.
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A2B
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Post by A2B »

tramssirhc wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:28
DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
The Wallington rotation is 5 weeks on, 1 week off. You do not 'bank' time. Its a rotation pattern which condenses the working time into a shorter period. In order to facilitate an additional Saturday off in this rotation your working will be further condensed. If that additional Saturday is prior to your week off that's quality time off.
Sorry you're going to have to explain that to me, surely you are "banking" your rest day for 5 weeks and taking 5 rest days in a row on the 6th week!

I'm not sure what you mean by "condensing" your working time either?
ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

A2B wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:59
tramssirhc wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 18:28
DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
The Wallington rotation is 5 weeks on, 1 week off. You do not 'bank' time. Its a rotation pattern which condenses the working time into a shorter period. In order to facilitate an additional Saturday off in this rotation your working will be further condensed. If that additional Saturday is prior to your week off that's quality time off.
Sorry you're going to have to explain that to me, surely you are "banking" your rest day for 5 weeks and taking 5 rest days in a row on the 6th week!

I'm not sure what you mean by "condensing" your working time either?
You're correct, in effect you save up your days off for five weeks then take them on the sixth, I've no idea what they mean by condensing either.

Additionaly in the examples for these different attendance patterns the extra Saturday is shown on the week you return after your week out but I think most people would agree that having it on week 5 the one prior to your week out would be better.
voodou7628
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Post by voodou7628 »

We have been told that we don't fit any of the 7 shift patterns due to high level of non drivers so who knows what we will end up on we will wait and see rumoured 1 in 6 which is worse than we currently have
worktotime
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Re: CHOOSING BETWEEN NEW SHIFT PATTERNS

Post by worktotime »

DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
are you one of the pilot offices ? , as the cwu has told no reps to be involved in any of this without any joint agreement beyond the pilot offices until it works , so if your dim is trying to push it through you need to contact your area rep and cwu HQS and inform them .
scoobydo79
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Post by scoobydo79 »

I thought the the plan has always have every one on 1 in 6
A day off every week on a rolling basis or 5 weeks working 6 days and a week off
Pidleypoo
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Post by Pidleypoo »

scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 20:17
I thought the the plan has always have every one on 1 in 6
A day off every week on a rolling basis or 5 weeks working 6 days and a week off
Did you miss the whole “ it’s about getting more Saturdays off” rhetoric from the union ?

If you have all this change for a 1/6 then that’s absolutely pathetic
A2B
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Post by A2B »

scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 20:17
I thought the the plan has always have every one on 1 in 6
A day off every week on a rolling basis or 5 weeks working 6 days and a week off
Thought it was various options that were to be voted on by the office and that everyone had to go on the duty pattern that was selected
smok3y666
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Post by smok3y666 »

A2B wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 20:27
scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 20:17
I thought the the plan has always have every one on 1 in 6
A day off every week on a rolling basis or 5 weeks working 6 days and a week off
Thought it was various options that were to be voted on by the office and that everyone had to go on the duty pattern that was selected
It was. But if anyone elses rep is like our, he's kept it hidden what the other shift patterns are and just basically said everyone's going on rota which funnily enough is what the managers want to.
Mr Rush
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Post by Mr Rush »

worktotime wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 19:41
DM66 wrote:
24 Jun 2025, 15:44
Hi all,
Our depot has just today been given 2 new shift options today to vote on
1 - 2 Saturdays off in every six weeks
2- 6 banked weeks ( so work 6 weeks then have a week off ), but also 2 Saturdays off every 6 weeks

Just wondered f anyone is doing either of these and the pros and cons you've noticed?
Or anyone who is about to vote on these shifts and the general feeling at work about them.
Must admit shift 2 appeals to me more if you can actually get your annual leave placed strategically to get as much break as poss.
are you one of the pilot offices ? , as the cwu has told no reps to be involved in any of this without any joint agreement beyond the pilot offices until it works , so if your dim is trying to push it through you need to contact your area rep and cwu HQS and inform them .
We've got the posters up (2 in 5, 2 in 6, Banked/Wallington) and we are not a pilot office. Commencing the week beginning September 15th. The trials are over - it's happening.
The machine stops.