Ours is coming soon and apparently the sorters scan the packets and the PDA tells them which DPR duty the go on. We come in and the manifest is already loaded onto the PDA for us to sort.
Like to hear if it actually works correctly as it's meant to cut out mis-sorts and stop duties chucking anything onto us they don't fancy taking out.
How can it stop mis-sorts when the people scanning are not posties who have covered ANY walk ever ?
They just scan york to york on a selected adhoc DPR route, there is no routing.
We have been doing this method for over 6 months and it's a shitshow.
You get what is given to you, considering these sorters don't start until 2 hours after posties have left it's not like they are given back.
Sat outside my house washing the car one saturday and 4 RM vans turned up within 30 mins.
Have they not tied it into the packet scanning data? The system should know what packets that there are at the DO, do you scan any packets to tell the system that they're being done by the DPR staff later in the afternoon? Surely that would give some system a large enough window to look at the data and generate some sensible DPR routes for that day. That data would be sent to the PDAs, which would then look at the address encoded in the 2D barcode to decide which DPR route the item is for.
We have been doing it for a while. It kind of sucks, firstly they time the routes without allowing time to get to and from delivery area, so I get more than I can do. I get several mis sorts, either in the wrong route or house number or even completely the wrong address entered into the system(usually house numbers wrong) so if you are following the PDA as listed, you end up stopping at the wrong address. In-flight items that are clearly labelled to go to a local collect like the PO are ignored by whoever is sorting so they are listed on the manifest in the wrong position or should be on an other route. I find I now have to go outside of my usual route, which I have almost never had to do before, despite seeing other drivers doing streets which are on my route, meaning we are crossing each other. The route planning software is still s**t, and ignoring logical delivery order or expecting you to turn around where its just not practical or safe.
This was meant to be more efficient, and stop drivers having to scan and sort items, but they still expect you to scan it to load it in order onto the van, so in practice I am spending exactly the same amount of time loading as it took me to scan sort and load before. Bunch of f***ing halfwit desk jockeys came up with this BS.
I get several mis sorts, either in the wrong route or house number or even completely the wrong address entered into the system(usually house numbers wrong)
Does the address printed on the item match the address encoded in the 2D barcode? The system will be going on the address encoded in the 2D barcode.
In-flight items that are clearly labelled to go to a local collect like the PO are ignored by whoever is sorting so they are listed on the manifest in the wrong position or should be on an other route.
PO branches seem to have capacity issues sometimes now. We're starting to see the odd packet that has been refused by a PO branch, think some PO branches don't just deal with RM anymore, can't remember if DPD also use the PO branches. Could the PO branch have flagged up that they won't accept any items after a certain time? Have they been instructed to ignore the local collect?
Haven’t seen this yet. Sounds like they are wanting 8 hour outdoors for drivers from what you’ve described! DPR works best when there’s a good relationship between driver and posties and I can see this method trying to drive a wedge between them.
How can it stop mis-sorts when the people scanning are not posties who have covered ANY walk ever ?
The new system has an option on the PDA for the sorters to use. It will show them them which DPR duty the packet belongs to without them having to look it up or remember where it goes.
We have been doing it for a while. It kind of sucks, firstly they time the routes without allowing time to get to and from delivery area, so I get more than I can do. I get several mis sorts, either in the wrong route or house number or even completely the wrong address entered into the system(usually house numbers wrong) so if you are following the PDA as listed, you end up stopping at the wrong address. In-flight items that are clearly labelled to go to a local collect like the PO are ignored by whoever is sorting so they are listed on the manifest in the wrong position or should be on an other route. I find I now have to go outside of my usual route, which I have almost never had to do before, despite seeing other drivers doing streets which are on my route, meaning we are crossing each other. The route planning software is still s**t, and ignoring logical delivery order or expecting you to turn around where its just not practical or safe.
This was meant to be more efficient, and stop drivers having to scan and sort items, but they still expect you to scan it to load it in order onto the van, so in practice I am spending exactly the same amount of time loading as it took me to scan sort and load before. Bunch of f***ing halfwit desk jockeys came up with this BS.
I thought as much, thanks for the feedback.
PS Do you not reorganise your route? I've always done this so I'm not trying to deliver a packet on the opposite side of a busy main road.
How can it stop mis-sorts when the people scanning are not posties who have covered ANY walk ever ?
The new system has an option on the PDA for the sorters to use. It will show them them which DPR duty the packet belongs to without them having to look it up or remember where it goes.
I like you to tell me that option as all we have is scan DPR then adhocXX route.
You then pull from the yorks what parcels are there that you are taking.
Have they not tied it into the packet scanning data? The system should know what packets that there are at the DO, do you scan any packets to tell the system that they're being done by the DPR staff later in the afternoon? Surely that would give some system a large enough window to look at the data and generate some sensible DPR routes for that day. That data would be sent to the PDAs, which would then look at the address encoded in the 2D barcode to decide which DPR route the item is for.
The first time any packet gets scanned is when the postie scans to core route or DPR scans to the adhoc route.
With this new way, the idea is that the manifest is done in draft during the indoor sort, which is then sent in draft and accessed by you in Outdoor while still in draft, meaning (i) you then add and/or remove errant stray missorts; (ii) you reorder the stops; (iii) you number your parcels, load up, hit the road…
With this new way, the idea is that the manifest is done in draft during the indoor sort, which is then sent in draft and accessed by you in Outdoor while still in draft, meaning (i) you then add and/or remove errant stray missorts; (ii) you reorder the stops; (iii) you number your parcels, load up, hit the road…
I get several mis sorts, either in the wrong route or house number or even completely the wrong address entered into the system(usually house numbers wrong)
Does the address printed on the item match the address encoded in the 2D barcode? The system will be going on the address encoded in the 2D barcode.
Not always, around half you have to self select the house number or name, with the latter the person scanning just seems to guess what might be the nearest if there's no accurate match, so you get to "Rose Cottage" only to find it's "Rosemary Cottage" so you then have to use Google or similar to try and locate the correct address.
