My walk is being absorbed, do I have right to pick another

[jbo5066]

4 walks today were lapsed, with no notice, and two are to be absorbed and two us made to cover. Our revision wasn't long ago-I wouldn't have picked it if I'd known that. I presume I have to suck it up or is there anything I can do? Our manager is off sick and the cover manager had no idea and our union rep is equally clueless.

Who's making these decisions as to which duties are going then, is there any meaningful planning whatsoever, has anyone actually got time to absorb the extra work?

A bit off topic - we are losing 590 hours, revision upcoming, some duties are getting full walks added on to them, 3 full walks between 2 people, those whose walks have been absorbed get to pick what's left or go to another office if nothing suitable available - reason for no repick - we are on strike and trying to do away with people having their own walks ...

[scoobydo79]

4 walks today were lapsed, with no notice, and two are to be absorbed and two us made to cover. Our revision wasn't long ago-I wouldn't have picked it if I'd known that. I presume I have to suck it up or is there anything I can do? Our manager is off sick and the cover manager had no idea and our union rep is equally clueless.

Who's making these decisions as to which duties are going then, is there any meaningful planning whatsoever, has anyone actually got time to absorb the extra work?

A planner and Your line manager I believe

[guardianangel]

4 walks today were lapsed, with no notice, and two are to be absorbed and two us made to cover. Our revision wasn't long ago-I wouldn't have picked it if I'd known that. I presume I have to suck it up or is there anything I can do? Our manager is off sick and the cover manager had no idea and our union rep is equally clueless.

Who's making these decisions as to which duties are going then, is there any meaningful planning whatsoever, has anyone actually got time to absorb the extra work?

A planner and Your line manager I believe

We haven't even got a planner we have got office manager and lino doing ours,needless to say you can guarantee all the bosses mates will get looked after.

[kazardaimenu]

No plan at our place just a load of parcels getting dumped on most of the duties. Some walks will be able to cope and others will fail, above my pay grade to care.

[flimflamman]

we are a small office 22 walks,4 walks are being taken out,people with long service being left with no fixed walk due there being no resign,nobody was asked there opinion on if these cuts would be achievable,i know this is sadly happening all over the country,but in the joint statement published yesterday informing us of the forthcoming intense negotiations i saw the following section
• RMG has reinstated the industrial relations framework for all revision activity. This is a significant development which gives us the ability to negotiate at local level, rather than managerial imposition of change. However, there remains a major issue over the national guidelines for these revisions and this will be discussed as the first item in our talks on Monday.
Does this statement not give us a bit of leveridge to challenge these savage and unmanageable cuts

[Barnacle]

we are a small office 22 walks,4 walks are being taken out,people with long service being left with no fixed walk due there being no resign,nobody was asked there opinion on if these cuts would be achievable,i know this is sadly happening all over the country,but in the joint statement published yesterday informing us of the forthcoming intense negotiations i saw the following section
• RMG has reinstated the industrial relations framework for all revision activity. This is a significant development which gives us the ability to negotiate at local level, rather than managerial imposition of change. However, there remains a major issue over the national guidelines for these revisions and this will be discussed as the first item in our talks on Monday.
Does this statement not give us a bit of leveridge to challenge these savage and unmanageable cuts

You would have thought so wouldn’t you.

They introduced the removal of certain walks at our place, then withdrew it, then half introduced it
It’s just a shambles and we’re short staffed because several long timers on my division have retired and not been replaced, so why they are trying to introduce it before sorting out staffing is a mystifying.

[enskied]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

[Barnacle]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

[enskied]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

[Barnacle]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

You obviously don’t have the same commitments as I do then do you? So it’s great that you don’t have to work any overtime.

[enskied]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

You obviously don’t have the same commitments as I do then do you? So it’s great that you don’t have to work any overtime.

I have never allowed my "commitments" to rely on overtime. I keep them to my basic wage, what I actually know that I have in my pocket.
I do understand where you are coming from, however, it is not a position I would allow myself to be in with this company.

[Barnacle]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

You obviously don’t have the same commitments as I do then do you? So it’s great that you don’t have to work any overtime.

I have never allowed my "commitments" to rely on overtime. I keep them to my basic wage, what I actually know that I have in my pocket.
I do understand where you are coming from, however, it is not a position I would allow myself to be in with this company.

It’s great that the price of energy has had zero impact on your disposable income, nor the increase in food and fuel. It isn’t a case of me or anyone else ‘allowing’ their expenditure to outstrip their income, it’s life and the cost of living increase that has done it.

[enskied]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

You obviously don’t have the same commitments as I do then do you? So it’s great that you don’t have to work any overtime.

I have never allowed my "commitments" to rely on overtime. I keep them to my basic wage, what I actually know that I have in my pocket.
I do understand where you are coming from, however, it is not a position I would allow myself to be in with this company.

It’s great that the price of energy has had zero impact on your disposable income, nor the increase in food and fuel. It isn’t a case of me or anyone else ‘allowing’ their expenditure to outstrip their income, it’s life and the cost of living increase that has done it.

It has not had zero impact on my disposable income. I have had to cut my cloth to my measure, decide what I need and what I want. I cut my expenditure because of that.
If you just feel that you need to carry on regardless to maintain a lifestyle you can not actually afford, I'm sure there is overtime a plenty for you, for now... But you can not rely upon it

[Barnacle]

If I do my walk on my own it takes me just over time. So the addition of permanent absorption would mean overtime every day if walks are then split so you are working on your own all the time. Can’t see how that makes financial sense but hey ho.

It's going to partly be determined by how many hours the COMS have been ordered by their boss to remove from the office

Have just found out that each walk is being given the same amount of absorption, so no attempt is being made to balance walks. I will therefore have to either cut off each day or work over- which I am fine with as long as I will be paid.

Why would you go over paid or not ?
Why?

Are you asking me why I would work paid overtime? Because not everyone is on 37-39 hours basic. Needs must.

I'm not on 37 or 39 hours basic either.
I won't give them a minute.

You obviously don’t have the same commitments as I do then do you? So it’s great that you don’t have to work any overtime.

I have never allowed my "commitments" to rely on overtime. I keep them to my basic wage, what I actually know that I have in my pocket.
I do understand where you are coming from, however, it is not a position I would allow myself to be in with this company.

It’s great that the price of energy has had zero impact on your disposable income, nor the increase in food and fuel. It isn’t a case of me or anyone else ‘allowing’ their expenditure to outstrip their income, it’s life and the cost of living increase that has done it.

It has not had zero impact on my disposable income. I have had to cut my cloth to my measure, decide what I need and what I want. I cut my expenditure because of that.
If you just feel that you need to carry on regardless to maintain a lifestyle you can not actually afford, I'm sure there is overtime a plenty for you, for now... But you can not rely upon it

I’m going to ignore this now because I’m probably older than you with an entirely different life situation. May life not come and slap you in the face.

[clashcityrocker]

I’m going to ignore this now because I’m probably older than you with an entirely different life situation. May life not come and slap you in the face.

You didn't need to quote the previous 17 posts to give that reply.