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What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

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dembz90
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What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by dembz90 »

What do you think any agreement will look like? I think both sides will need to compromise , do you think any will be back dated or if we will be offered a lump sum of any sorts?
Rommagic
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Post by Rommagic »

Like too hear tomorrow.
sixfoottwo
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by sixfoottwo »

We shouldn't even be talking about a deal in the current circumstances EA/Revisions unagreed still happening.

All this points to a royal (mail) shafting without lube :evil/mad
Rommagic
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by Rommagic »

Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
citypostie
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Post by citypostie »

Rommagic wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:02
Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
Have they? We a haven't switched to annualised hours with a commit to deliver clause yet, plus sick pay changes and much later starts. Plenty they want which hopefully they won't get because if they do what's happening now will feel like the good old days we all talk about
Dogbone1510
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Post by Dogbone1510 »

Anything less than backdated to April last year should be rejected most full timers at 9% would be due around £1700.
With ni overtime.
Trumanity
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by Trumanity »

citypostie wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:33
Rommagic wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:02
Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
Have they? We a haven't switched to annualised hours with a commit to deliver clause yet, plus sick pay changes and much later starts. Plenty they want which hopefully they won't get because if they do what's happening now will feel like the good old days we all talk about
I don't care. They can agree on what they want. The s**t is here to stay. Never worked for a worse employer. That was symbolised by the god awful, insulting,cheap lapel pin for 10 years service I got in 2021. Sent out in the blizzards today with a "use your dynamic risk assessment" soundbite from the DLM. The only good thing to come out of this whole s**t, awful mess is the men talk to each other in the morning breaks which more of us take now. That is it. :wave
SMS1969
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by SMS1969 »

Probably be a two year deal spanning April 2022- March 2024. Around the 7% region possibly back dated for this year, then another 3 or 4 % next month.
Later starts but not much later to begin with, with a finish time.
No commit to deliver, but shorter weeks in quieter months and longer when busier.
Sick pay will move to full pay first sickness, then no pay for first 3 days after.
No compulsory Sundays.
Deal of the century 🤣
Kenfandango
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Post by Kenfandango »

General thoughts from my DO....
5-7% payrise, maybe backdated to October and definitely with a plea of poverty to staff and the media
Start times pushed back a max of 30 mins if at all, with intent to push them further back later.
Attempt to make the hours longer in winter, shorter in summer... Only last as long as it takes to notice that shorter hours in summer means longer leave for those that can book it, so more overtime being paid to cover the duties.
No compulsory Sundays, anyone with them already in contracts get to do even more of them. Yay.
Sick pay reduced slightly
Immediate screwing over of the staff from on high the day the "deal' happens
Richie24
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Post by Richie24 »

I think most of those seem right. Everything RM wanted in is in, so the sticking point will be the pay. I don’t think Annualised hours was ever going to be implemented as it had so many hurdles to jump before it could legally be pushed on us. I think it was some weird managers idea that was thought and some at the top ran with it, without seriously thinking of the logistics.
I think most of us can agree that the sickness needs to be addressed. We have a colleague at our office who has had over 300 days of sickness and childcare time off and is still in a job, ( and everyone knows he’s skiving as he tells everyone) but what they are thinking is very unfair to the majority of the workforce.
I think that the job is over as we know it and we all have to decide wether it’s time to leave, which is a shame as most of us either came or stayed because of the lifestyle it gave us.
bensonhedge
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by bensonhedge »

citypostie wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:33
Rommagic wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:02
Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
Have they? We a haven't switched to annualised hours with a commit to deliver clause yet, plus sick pay changes and much later starts. Plenty they want which hopefully they won't get because if they do what's happening now will feel like the good old days we all talk about
They'll come for the D2D money next!
thefox
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by thefox »

Think the fact that they have totally ignored the pausing of e.a and the union has done nowt about it would point to us being sold down the river hope im wrong though.
postieblueshirt
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Post by postieblueshirt »

Well like the last build up I kept extra in my credit union to see me through,did the same this time then withdrew it last week and spent the lot, as I see it the strikes are done..
grchpo
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by grchpo »

bensonhedge wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 19:01
citypostie wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:33
Rommagic wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:02
Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
Have they? We a haven't switched to annualised hours with a commit to deliver clause yet, plus sick pay changes and much later starts. Plenty they want which hopefully they won't get because if they do what's happening now will feel like the good old days we all talk about
They'll come for the D2D money next!
We do not get D2D money
chickenwittle
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Re: What do you think/have heard the deal will look like?

Post by chickenwittle »

bensonhedge wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 19:01
citypostie wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:33
Rommagic wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:02
Three year pay deal including last year maybe back pay on some of last years rise only from Oct last year everything RM wanted they have got.
Have they? We a haven't switched to annualised hours with a commit to deliver clause yet, plus sick pay changes and much later starts. Plenty they want which hopefully they won't get because if they do what's happening now will feel like the good old days we all talk about
They'll come for the D2D money next!
What decade are you living in ?