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LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

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https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-019-23-roya ... arch-2023/

LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023
No. 019/23

24th January 2023

Dear Colleagues,

Royal Mail Group Dispute – Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

Branches and Representatives will be aware of the re-ballot timetable for the International Distributions Services (previously Royal Mail Group) dispute for all CWU represented grades in Royal Mail Group.

Due to the unilateral decision by RMG to instigate an unagreed preference exercise seeking applicants for Voluntary Redundancy (VR) which closed on 27th November 2022, there may be members who, having been offered and accepted a VR package, will be leaving Royal Mail Group employment before the earliest possible date for taking strike action (2nd March 2023).

The Union has tried to obtain information from RMG about those that have accepted VR, more detailed information as to RMG’s plans regarding VR and any changes since their original announcement about this. RMG has failed to provide this information.

Due to RMG not providing the Union with sufficient information, we have to send this LTB as some members unknown to us may have accepted offers of VR and will receive a ballot paper despite their employment with RMG ceasing prior to when strike action could first be held (2nd March 2023).

This LTB is therefore to inform members of the following legal advice:

Where members have accepted VR and will be leaving RMG employment before 2nd March 2023 THEY SHOULD NOT VOTE in the re-ballot.

All Branches are instructed to ensure this LTB receives the widest possible circulation.

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely

Dave Ward
General Secretary

Andy Furey
Acting Deputy General Secretary (P)
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I can feel another court injunction coming.
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Has anyone Been informed that they're leaving before2 march due to VR?. And how would anyone know if they did vote?
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Re: LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

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I'm retiring in February so do I get to vote or not
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Its march the 25th tha leave at our office
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Par wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 17:22
I'm retiring in February so do I get to vote or not
The smple answer is no, as you are already leaving. You will be out of it all before the earliest potential strike date which is 2nd March.

Best wishes in your future retirement :thumbup
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I know the CWU need to be cautious but surely this is the same as somebody else leaving RM for whatever reason after casting their vote?

There must be people leaving weekly either planned or unplanned .
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Anyone know how RM would know if somebody leaving voted?
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Re: LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

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I wonder if ST will still be able to vote? :hmmmm
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Re: LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

Post by priority102 »

This has got legal action written all over it.
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Post by Par »

Thanks for your thoughts on this
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The union have asked for details, none have been provided. As long as there’s a paper trail which shows it’s been requested it won’t stand up in court.
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Re: LTB 019/23 - Royal Mail Group Dispute - Voluntary Redundancy Taken Before 2nd March 2023

Post by Judgee »

So I take it if you haven't heard anything about EVR your not being offered it? :hmmmm
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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pieoftheday wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 18:10
Anyone know how RM would know if somebody leaving voted?
Exactly this..how are they gonna know unless someone actually comes out and tells them I've voted no but im leaving on v.r
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Post by Tman »

Sadly some would appear to dumb enough to do just that, and RM will then jump on it.