cwu v's rm & the media

[world class male]

despite some reservations on our ballot (not putting in a work to rule option )
i am still 100% behind the strikes, just think it would be more hurtful after strikes to call a w2r to prolong the disruption, even mix the 2 reasons for ballots for maximum effect,
what concerns me is the media who is mainly controlled by the tories and even now labour who won't support us
we've all seen mick lynch and he has become the dream spokesman for rmt, very knowledgeable and doesn't get flustered by anything and always gets the point across on national tv, unites sharon graham is the same to a certain extent,
we have dave ward and terry pullinger who both without stereotyping them have just left a millwall match looking for a ruck
they are both without doubt more educated in union disputes than myself but the media don't really give them time to get their point across whereas i'd guess 95% of the tv viewers still think we've a 5.5% deal on offer, not much emphasis on exactly the real terms unless you're scouring the net which only us do

this will be an hard slog and will end up splitting offices

[SpacePhoenix]

just think it would be more hurtful after strikes to call a w2r to prolong the disruption, even mix the 2 reasons for ballots for maximum effect,

That would require a separate ballot. The CWU should have had "or actions short of a strike" on both ballots

[scoobydo79]

Let me set You a little challenge. Try and find someone who is able to tell You exactly what a work to rule should consist of and how it shall be applied by posties.

[world class male]

i know where you're going with that, but we all know some will be in early saturday morning working for free and despite them saying to restrict overtime some will get offered plenty to make the strike day before a distant memory, i'll rephrase the "work to rule" with "overtime ban"

[timbo1234]

You don't need a work to rule. Keep strictly to time, take breaks, vehicle checks, sign in and out every time, follow the procedures on leaving parcels, photograph where necessary, leave a completely filled in P739, don't run round, back in time to "pouch off" before clocking out. There must be others but just following the above would cause problems in our office.

[Woody Guthrie]

You don't need a work to rule. Keep strictly to time, take breaks, vehicle checks, sign in and out every time, follow the procedures on leaving parcels, photograph where necessary, leave a completely filled in P739, don't run round, back in time to "pouch off" before clocking out. There must be others but just following the above would cause problems in our office.

I did all that and finished 40 minutes early today.
You're right it does cause problems, just not the kind you think.

When a revision is planned properly on x amount of mail and only y amount comes through the doors no amount of doing the job properly will cause Royal Mail any serious backlog.

Of course a lot of revisions weren't planned properly but it's hard to imagine how any half decent manager is struggling right now.

Perhaps that's our best strategy, just let management screw everything up.

[LaggyBand]

Bloody hell work to rule and you still early, your office must be making loads then as I’m sure most aren’t doing the job properly like you, they must be making more, can’t see that lasting long?

[SpacePhoenix]

Let me set You a little challenge. Try and find someone who is able to tell You exactly what a work to rule should consist of and how it shall be applied by posties.

It's down to how it gets construed by RM to be

[norris9]

I bet there are soooooooo many depots across the country with rounds that are too short. I bet there's depots out there all over the place where Posties are finishing really early and just walking out 30mins+ before their contracted finish time.

This is where RM are going wrong. Too many rounds that are too short.

There are also rounds that are too long....


Get the rounds all fairly revised and you might actually boost our profits over $1billion and then next time you can have an even bigger payout to shareholders.

[Woody Guthrie]

Get the rounds all fairly revised

You're kind of missing the point.
These rounds were fairly revised 8 months ago.
Now they are too short.

When Simon says there have not been the productivity gains he's right but at the same time being untruthful by trying to blame the union.

The reason that we have not been able to improve our productivity score is because the arse has fallen out of our mail volumes.

This is the flaw in using WIPWH as a measure of efficiency, if you can't get enough work in through the door it will nosedive without simultaneity gouging out hours through short staffing and lapsing.