RMCtv : Later starts : The full list & Q&A'S

[POSTMAN]

Office details clean link here...
https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... 0model.pdf

Q&A clean link here...
https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... s%20QA.pdf

Later start times QA.pdf

Network Window Start and FInish Times model.pdf

Francis Williams
Commercial Property & Central Programme ⋅ Royal Mail



ERIC
But let me ask you the question that Gary are still here on which is the Amazon vans are out early and ours aren't going to be out early. We're just going to look crazy.

Frank
Well, we also looking to get out early. So we're still looking to be out there for 8 O'clock. We're not looking to get out there from 10 or the midday sun was I heard Gary say, No, we are looking to get out there from eight o'clock.

ERIC
Right. So we are looking to get out from 8 O'clock. Okay, we're not giving it the AM. Great. And the second thing is, which I think was mentioned by Gary, if it wasn't mentioned by Gary was definitely mentioned in terms of the rest of the Frances delivering at nine and 10 o'clock at night safety issue.

Frank
We're not going to be delivering until 10, nine o'clock 10 o'clock at night. So for core deliveries, the bulk of our colleagues will be back, you know, by four o'clock, five o'clock at the latest, but most of them are backed by four o'clock. I do understand that has an impact on lifestyles, I fully fully understand that


ERIC
was actually picked that up in Francis. So let's go back where we came from here. So we are going to do earlies, we are going to be out by eight o'clock We are, the job majority of the team are back sort of four and five o'clock. Correct? They are. But let's be honest, it's a big change. How about what what percentages are changing? And because I've read the stuff one hour, two hour, three hours, and it's different by office? What's What's the truth?

FRANK
Yeah, well, the truth is that we expect probably 20% of walks or offices to move by an hour in terms of their start time today. About 70%, between one hour and two hours, and then above two hours, maybe two or three hours and other 10%. And that is a big change for colleagues. Because you know, I know having been in the company for 29 years and only 30 Is that in delivery, specifically in colleagues enjoy the job, because it's out in the open fresh air. But it's also about being able to get back and good time to look after pick up children care for elderly parents, you know, and we all have have those day to day pressures. So I fully get it,


ERIC
but how are we're going to deal with differences. I get that you get it and it's great that you're empathetic. But how so with the change coming in overnight, or what's what

FRANK
we got, I think I believe that we need to be totally sensitive. And I think we need to look at how we manage this change over a few years, maybe up to three years. Some of the ideas I'm thinking about is for example, well, actually, some colleagues may like change now. So we could ask a number of colleagues, would you like to volunteer?


ERIC
We had that that during COVID? Some people prefer that later. Not imagine not a huge number to be out. But some No,

FRANK
but it's a start, isn't it? So we could ask colleagues if they want to volunteer, you know, we do have turnover. And as we bring in new joiners, we can actually start them later and actually advertise the job is actually being fair. starting later in terms of being fair. I think as we then start progressing, we are three years is quite a long time. And I think we can then start to look on individual case by case basis, what the circumstances are, and move people with the times. So you know, we could do a big bang and put the change in but I don't think that's great.


ERIC
We're not doing that time. I agree. I don't think that's great too disruptive for people.

FRANK
And also I think it's you know, it goes against our Royal Mail values we have in this company and we look after our people and we will look after our people through this change

Simon (eric) Bullshit.pdf

#We have the right amount of s**t-and the right amount of Bull

[POSTMAN]

Remember - the finishing times are not the real finishing times as per this post here!...

RMCtv : No cut offs - ever - You take it out - you deliver it all.

Something that's important to cover off is that we're looking to enhance the commit to deliver principle, whereby if you're allocated some work for a route on a day, we would want that work to be completed. So if we look at our competitors, they wouldn't cut off and return to the Depo. With some work outstanding. What we're looking for within the really flexible hours approach is to have that ability to flex on the day outside of those scheduled hours. So that if there are variations from day to day, we complete that work. And if we go over the scheduled time, we bank those hours.

[Woody Guthrie]

Had a look at Thurso.
For all you southerners that's pretty much the northernmost town in the UK mainland so it gets really dark and really cold really quick up there in winter, usually before 3pm.

Start time 11am
Finish time 6.31pm
If you've finished your delivery that is...

f***ing idiots...

[POSTMAN]

Have added a video to the 1st post-give it time as it's still uploading and I will do the text as soon as I can-the title of the video is very apt.
But don't panic - everyone - will be on the road for 8am and finished by 4.

[gfte]

I was just going to say about Wick and Thurso, be interesting what their chat is. 11 to half 6. Half the days light is gone before you even clock in in winter there.

West coast isnt far behind, Kyle, Portree, Fort William and Oban. 10.40ish to 6ish.

[2yearpostie]

Have added a video to the 1st post-give it time as it's still uploading and I will do the text as soon as I can-the title of the video is very apt.
But don't panic - everyone - will be on the road for 8am and finished by 4.

Isnt it start IP at 8am, on the road for between 10-11am..

[POSTMAN]

ERIC
But let me ask you the question that Gary are still here on which is the Amazon vans are out early and ours aren't going to be out early. We're just going to look crazy.

Frank
Well, we also looking to get out early. So we're still looking to be out there for 8 O'clock. We're not looking to get out there from 10 or the midday sun was I heard Gary say, No, we are looking to get out there from eight o'clock.

ERIC
Right. So we are looking to get out from 8 O'clock. Okay, we're not giving it the AM. Great. And the second thing is, which I think was mentioned by Gary, if it wasn't mentioned by Gary was definitely mentioned in terms of the rest of the Frances delivering at nine and 10 o'clock at night safety issue.

Frank
We're not going to be delivering until 10, nine o'clock 10 o'clock at night. So for core deliveries, the bulk of our colleagues will be back, you know, by four o'clock, five o'clock at the latest, but most of them are backed by four o'clock. I do understand that has an impact on lifestyles, I fully fully understand that


ERIC
was actually picked that up in Francis. So let's go back where we came from here. So we are going to do earlies, we are going to be out by eight o'clock We are, the job majority of the team are back sort of four and five o'clock. Correct? They are. But let's be honest, it's a big change. How about what what percentages are changing? And because I've read the stuff one hour, two hour, three hours, and it's different by office? What's What's the truth?

FRANK
Yeah, well, the truth is that we expect probably 20% of walks or offices to move by an hour in terms of their start time today. About 70%, between one hour and two hours, and then above two hours, maybe two or three hours and other 10%. And that is a big change for colleagues. Because you know, I know having been in the company for 29 years and only 30 Is that in delivery, specifically in colleagues enjoy the job, because it's out in the open fresh air. But it's also about being able to get back and good time to look after pick up children care for elderly parents, you know, and we all have have those day to day pressures. So I fully get it,


ERIC
but how are we're going to deal with differences. I get that you get it and it's great that you're empathetic. But how so with the change coming in overnight, or what's what

FRANK
we got, I think I believe that we need to be totally sensitive. And I think we need to look at how we manage this change over a few years, maybe up to three years. Some of the ideas I'm thinking about is for example, well, actually, some colleagues may like change now. So we could ask a number of colleagues, would you like to volunteer?


ERIC
We had that that during COVID? Some people prefer that later. Not imagine not a huge number to be out. But some No,

FRANK
but it's a start, isn't it? So we could ask colleagues if they want to volunteer, you know, we do have turnover. And as we bring in new joiners, we can actually start them later and actually advertise the job is actually being fair. starting later in terms of being fair. I think as we then start progressing, we are three years is quite a long time. And I think we can then start to look on individual case by case basis, what the circumstances are, and move people with the times. So you know, we could do a big bang and put the change in but I don't think that's great.


ERIC
We're not doing that time. I agree. I don't think that's great too disruptive for people.

FRANK
And also I think it's you know, it goes against our Royal Mail values we have in this company and we look after our people and we will look after our people through this change


#We have the right amount of s**t-and the right amount of Bull

[britwrit]

"We fully appreciate that the sun has its own schedule and that this schedule has worked well for it in the past. But as we meet the changing landscape of the delivery business, we expect both the sun and the Royal Mail to make the changes that will fuly enhance the customer experience.

Sunset in Thurso for mid-December will now be 8:30 pm, give or take 15 minutes."

[clashcityrocker]

Given that Scotland will be independent by the time this is implemented Nicola might have different ideas.

[RTP]

Had a look at Thurso.
For all you southerners that's pretty much the northernmost town in the UK mainland so it gets really dark and really cold really quick up there in winter, usually before 3pm.

Start time 11am
Finish time 6.31pm
If you've finished your delivery that is...

f***ing idiots...

There is a reason why our clocks go back in the winter. Health and safety.

[Woody Guthrie]

So we're still looking to be out there for 8 O'clock.

We're not looking to get out there from 10

Right. So we are looking to get out from 8 O'clock

So we are going to do earlies, we are going to be out by eight o'clock

Am I missing something?
Has something been lost in translation?
If you don't start until eight o'clock at the earliest and in some cases more like 9-10 how do you get out at eight o'clock?

[POSTMAN]

So we're still looking to be out there for 8 O'clock.

We're not looking to get out there from 10

Right. So we are looking to get out from 8 O'clock

So we are going to do earlies, we are going to be out by eight o'clock

Am I missing something?
Has something been lost in translation?
If you don't start until eight o'clock at the earliest and in some cases more like 9-10 how do you get out at eight o'clock?

Funny as f**k in a sick and f***ing twisted way-pair of c***s.

[RTP]

So we're still looking to be out there for 8 O'clock.

We're not looking to get out there from 10

Right. So we are looking to get out from 8 O'clock

So we are going to do earlies, we are going to be out by eight o'clock

Am I missing something?
Has something been lost in translation?
If you don't start until eight o'clock at the earliest and in some cases more like 9-10 how do you get out at eight o'clock?

No you're not missing anything.

In cloud cuckoo land we will be delivering from 8am until 4/5/6/7pm.

[Gary55]

Like us the Sun Will be given 3 years to adjust to the new start time.As it's 6 billion years old this seems reasonable

[Acca Dacca]

This is all a load of nonsense


Saying our walk length will remain as they are but we will be out in the street at 8am ( which would mean starting EARLIER not later ) and finishing at 5pm. So a 8 hour walk?

And if they mean we will start in the office at 8am, as you would expect it to mean, then we ARE giving up the AM delivery and leaving the office to start much later than the competition yet they are maintaining we wont be out in the street any later

Two contradictions AGAIN

Is this another frightener with no legs put out there to scare us into accepting a shite pay rise? I think it might just be.