Pipeline changes in march

[Martin Walsh]

The flights which are scheduled to cease are only those that serve the mainland. Northern Ireland will still receive flights.

Out of the 27 Delivery Units which are in Northern Ireland.

20 have no change to their start or finish times.

7 have changes ranging from 5 minutes to 25 minutes.

This will be reviewed by the mail centre working groups to try and improve on that.

[SpacePhoenix]

I can't see the flights to Northern Island lasting forever. I think eventually RM will add Northern island to the list of exemptions, like the really northerly parts of Scotland

[Jen1]

For the record the removal of flights has impacts across the UK.

However clearly the Highlands which rely on the Inverness flights and indeed the South West which rely on the Exeter flights are both at the biggest risk.

However different areas are impacted in different ways , most of the Midlands and North West get the least movement in start times.

South London is one of the biggest impact due to its reliance on Stanstead Airport.

Both Royal Mail and the CWU have been working hard to ensure that the no more than 60 minutes can be achieved. This includes making sure mail centres actually carry out their work plan which will mean that 95% of mails can be on Wave 1.

Before Space jumps in this will be achieved by advancing all dispatch including the final. 80% of DSA is in mail centres before 18:00 and we are still having the final dispatch at 22:00 when we have less than 40% of the work load we had 20 years ago and this will reduce more when the Midlands hub ramps up.

All mail centre catchment working groups will be set up over the next 3 weeks with the intention to achieve the no more than 60 minutes later start with a default of 90 minutes.

We have modelled lots of units and we believe we can achieve this.

However anyone who believes that Royal Mail was going to keep using planes clearly was reading the room right.

The only way to reduce the impact was to reduce the impact of later starts. Voting no would have meant hundreds of units would have moved to the cheaper option 3 hours plus later.

There has never been any need to move start times at all

We are all agreed that the use of planes should be cut down

But if they’re happy to let all of Jersey’s post be delayed by 2 days why couldn’t RM ask for an extension of the delivery time window on the 5% of mail that gets sent by air

I mean that is right isn’t it that only 5% of mail will be affected by no longer using planes?

https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-0 ... rom-august

Makes absolutely no sense to give up the morning delivery period for the sake of 5% of mail

[PA 1979]

On the Cwu web site where you can see all the start times for all the Delivery Offices in the UK and it's definitely later starts for Northern Ireland too Martin, a random 7 I checked
Ballymena 7.36, Belfast East 7.30, Londonderry 7.50,Larne 7.30, Antrim 7.27, Coleraine 7.10 Strabane 8.00. Unless this has changed it's a 45 minute change to the delivery office Im in.

[SpacePhoenix]

Both Royal Mail and the CWU have been working hard to ensure that the no more than 60 minutes can be achieved. This includes making sure mail centres actually carry out their work plan which will mean that 95% of mails can be on Wave 1.

Both RM and the CWU are deluded if they think that 95% of the inward mail will be going out on wave 1. It's physically impossible as it won't be physically possible to fit it all onto 1 lorry and very few DOs can handle a 17tonner. With the changes we've got upcoming there's a strong possibility that final dispatches will have to be put back by over an hour. Our work already comes in later, once the flights get axed i think it's probably going to be around an hour later that the final work will come in.

Even half hour later will mean some of the wave 2 runs are going to get caught up in traffic every day

Before Space jumps in this will be achieved by advancing all dispatch including the final. 80% of DSA is in mail centres before 18:00 and we are still having the final dispatch at 22:00 when we have less than 40% of the work load we had 20 years ago and this will reduce more when the Midlands hub ramps up.

Final dispatch times AFAIK are around 21:30, they've not been 22:00 for a few years now. There maybe less work but there's also less staff, some shifts got decimated in the realignment. If RM want the final dispatches from the outward MCs to be earlier, they can either put all the hours back in that were removed during the realignment or the final dispatch times WON'T BE CHANGING. The yorks of "direct to DO" work that should be cross docked still have to be scanned by MC staff (individual items). Them direct yorks are to AFAIK the local parcel hubs, which given current staffing levels, I think it's only a matter of time before the work to the local parcel hubs starts to go back to the DOs. It seems like a greater proportion of the non-direct yorks/sleeves aren't going via the hubs. I don't know if you missed someone's comment fairly recently above an ever increasing list of firms whose mail the hubs can't process.

Have the compulsory breaks for the lorry drivers been factored in? It's no good the dispatch being earlier if the driver can't drive the lorry any earlier.

[1560loopsayear]

Voting no would have meant hundreds of units would have moved to the cheaper option 3 hours plus later.

I think this vote is just delaying the inevitable. Royal Mail want us delivering Parcels up to 8pm and I bet in under 5 years time we'll all be rota'd to sharing later shifts.

[postslippete]

What's the point in delaying our start times to ensure that all the mail arrives in the delivery office? Half of it is left in the frames because they have made duties too big. Sometimes the mail gets bundled up and taken for a ride only to be brought back again because the postie hasn't got time to deliver it all. And I would wager that the postie would be bringing back/leaving way more than 5% of the mail.

All this about axing flights to reduce CO2 is just a convenient excuse for the company to get mail to processing later so that the mail arrives in delivery offices later in one wave to coincide with the later delivery of packets that are coming from these new parcel super hubs.

[SpacePhoenix]

What's the point in delaying our start times to ensure that all the mail arrives in the delivery office? Half of it is left in the frames because they have made duties too big. Sometimes the mail gets bundled up and taken for a ride only to be brought back again because the postie hasn't got time to deliver it all. And I would wager that the postie would be bringing back/leaving way more than 5% of the mail.

All this about axing flights to reduce CO2 is just a convenient excuse for the company to get mail to processing later so that the mail arrives in delivery offices later in one wave to coincide with the later delivery of packets that are coming from these new parcel super hubs.

With the size of wave 2 batches these days, it's only going to be a mater of time before the wave 2 stuff either gets sent as manual or gets rolled over to the next day (to be run with the next day's "current" wave 1)

[LouBarlow]

My second wave can be a dozen letters now. It is ridiculous that so much effort is being wasted on it when other areas are ignored, as has been pointed out above.

[Mr Rush]

All this about axing flights to reduce CO2 is just a convenient excuse for the company to get mail to processing later so that the mail arrives in delivery offices later in one wave to coincide with the later delivery of packets that are coming from these new parcel super hubs.

We all have to make sacrifices so the thousands of cement works and factories and coal power stations in China can keep belching out CO2. Our great effort will be immeasurable. Literally.