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What deal are you waiting for?

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat

What do you want to do

Vote on the current offer
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Total votes: 494

guardianangel
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by guardianangel »

iHateD2Ds wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 10:29
Greed is what got RM to **** off its workforce and its never going to stop whilst the parasites make the decisions
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
Mikeb99
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Mikeb99 »

Was this thread intended as a wish list or for people to put what they are waiting for because they actually think they might get it?
Every week that goes by is another weeks lost pay rise. There will be no extra back pay.
Everyone of us is seeing executive action taking place in our offices. The changes are happening and will continue.
We’ve waited over a year. We’ve thrown the best part of 2 grand each, away on strikes.
It’s not a great deal but there is a cost of living crisis and the bosses gave away three quarters of a billion quid. They were stupid, reckless and quite possibly criminal but the money is gone. No amount of complaining or striking is going to bring it back.
It’s time to accept what’s on offer and take the money.
77SAMPOST77
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

Mikeb99 wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 15:48
Was this thread intended as a wish list or for people to put what they are waiting for because they actually think they might get it?
Every week that goes by is another weeks lost pay rise. There will be no extra back pay.
Everyone of us is seeing executive action taking place in our offices. The changes are happening and will continue.
We’ve waited over a year. We’ve thrown the best part of 2 grand each, away on strikes.
It’s not a great deal but there is a cost of living crisis and the bosses gave away three quarters of a billion quid. They were stupid, reckless and quite possibly criminal but the money is gone. No amount of complaining or striking is going to bring it back.
It’s time to accept what’s on offer and take the money.
If you want to be a slave go work for EVRI ,
The rest of us have got a backbone and do not give in to bullies .
Hockeygull
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Hockeygull »

I'm waiting for Mr Hawkins' daughter to be phased in by 1991 and the recipe for Lord Grant's wife's lemon ice cream....and some money.
Hyrrokkin
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Hyrrokkin »

RM can never be trusted - EVER !!

They cannot honour any existing agreements - they are liars and shysters - every one of them

Any agreements will have more holes in them than a sponge
Jen1
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by Jen1 »

I’m not willing to start and finish any later than I do now

And I want Thompson out and someone else in that has a better business plan than asset stripping and squeezing an already overworked workforce to make money

Our customers don’t trust Thompson after the parliamentary review, we don’t trust him so I don’t see how any deal can ever be done with him still there
k979aaa
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

On Pay 2% plus £1000 pro rata 2022 plus 8% 2023 plus 5% 2024
No change sick pay or IHR.
1 HOUR start time change for the duration of the agreement
All allowances ongoing.
Half hour flex.
No Sunday working without Sunday pay voluntary.
No compulsory Redundancies during the whole agreement.
Better framework for change that can be done without compromising the USO.
The reinstatement of people found to have been suspended sacked while not causing intentional harm.
The pathway to change to be reinstated.
And new contracts to be assimilated to normal post September 2022 contracts.
This would be my deal but as ever the devil is in the detail of what could be achieved not all this will happen but most of this would be a basis of a deal and should be on most peoples wish lists. We all know they want change but we all know how it will affect the customers we all deliver to and this is the paramount concern if we cannot deliver they will go elsewhere. We can get a deal like this but it takes time Rome was not built in a day!
datasaint
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by datasaint »

Jen1 wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 21:51
I’m not willing to start and finish any later than I do now
I don't see how that can form any part of the deal really.

If the public want their packages delivered later in the day, and that's what the business model has become, you can't really argue against it. You might not like it and it may no longer suit you, but that's the way business goes.

It's like saying I don't want to do the job because we don't finish at midday any more.
k979aaa
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

norm wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 00:12
Jen1 wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 21:51
I’m not willing to start and finish any later than I do now
I don't see how that can form any part of the deal really.

If the public want their packages delivered later in the day, and that's what the business model has become, you can't really argue against it. You might not like it and it may no longer suit you, but that's the way business goes.

It's like saying I don't want to do the job because we don't finish at midday any more.
Well if someone had not given away £567 million you could be properly recompenced by the 2000 way forward agreement ie max two years pay but depends on service and age. But the CEO paid himself on the shareholders at your cost!
redlen
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by redlen »

If the legal protections in the Agenda for Growth had not been torn up by going on strike Royal Mail would not have been able to touch previous agreements such as the MTSF

Who really is to blame for this crash and burn with terms and conditions?
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 01:00
If the legal protections in the Agenda for Growth had not been torn up by going on strike Royal Mail would not have been able to touch previous agreements such as the MTSF

Who really is to blame for this crash and burn with terms and conditions?
Simon had he not given the money away to feather his nest would we be in dispute now?
redlen
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by redlen »

Royal Mail is under no obligation like any other employer to give an annual pay rise.
The profits generated were from the previous 12 months/
Though I agree he should have kept a substantial sum in reserve, he was under no obligation to do so

The public service sector such as the NHS had a pay freeze for almost a decade
k979aaa
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 01:12
Royal Mail is under no obligation like any other employer to give an annual pay rise.
The profits generated were from the previous 12 months/
Though I agree he should have kept a substantial sum in reserve, he was under no obligation to do so

The public service sector such as the NHS had a pay freeze for almost a decade
His business to ruin defend him all you like and may you go down with him he cost the taxpayer £37 Billion also pick your mates and do as you do but your him or are wedded to him by soul or purpose!
redlen
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by redlen »

Am defending nobody, simply stating the facts over spin and propaganda/
People have a right to see both sides of the coin with making a decision.
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Re: What deal are you waiting for?

Post by k979aaa »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 01:24
Am defending nobody, simply stating the facts over spin and propaganda/
People have a right to see both sides of the coin with making a decision.
But you perpetuate management spealie did not seem so in your last post calling us all at fault for the actions of someone who thrown the whole company under a bus to get a bonus?