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49erman
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by 49erman »

Pidleypoo wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:49
I’d like to know the full details.

Rm posting what seems to be limited information on what exactly the offer is.

What’s the stance on.

-commit to deliver
-banking hours
-annualised/ seasonal hours
-changes to the pipeline
-unachievable revisions

Unless we know the full scope of changes , how can we vote on anything?
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Dexydog
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by Dexydog »

heraldmoth wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 15:12
I’m pretty sure most people aren’t grasping how inflation works
Correct.
People see the hear and now.
Your 4 pint of milk ain't coming down, ever.
Effectively any lump sum is a pay cut, even if its made to look like its on a par with inflation percentage wise.
You only get it once, inflation is forever.
thefox
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by thefox »

Pidleypoo wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:49
I’d like to know the full details.

Rm posting what seems to be limited information on what exactly the offer is.

What’s the stance on.

-commit to deliver
-banking hours
-annualised/ seasonal hours
-changes to the pipeline
-unachievable revisions

Unless we know the full scope of changes , how can we vote on anything?
Exactly this we dont even have full details.
Grads75
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by Grads75 »

If cwu don't think it's not good enough trust them. I'd rather trust them any day than Thompson and Co they are not to be trusted
guardianangel
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by guardianangel »

CRIBMAD wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:15
PROFIT SHARE ? what profits remember the COLLEAGUE SHARE fiasco - total waste of time - get those strike dates called today and make it worthwhile (full week)
your right What profits we are losing a million pound a day .
nuisance
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by nuisance »

No we don't, not when there's a danger of some desperate muppets actually voting for it.

A think a long term plan of work to rule, disruption strikes from the start of october followed by an all out walk out from mid November is the only way.

I can outlast the b'stards but I fear some of the workforce haven't the stomach or funds for it at this point.
guardianangel
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by guardianangel »

We should be calling for strikes just over 3% a year after those robbers nicked all the money,treated you like dogs,suspended your friends deducted money from your pay,i cant believe what im reading sometimes ,call the strikes if they go into administration so be it the government will take it back over ,if anybody votes for this you will be treated like dirt for the rest of your working days .
guardianangel
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by guardianangel »

nuisance wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 15:58
No we don't, not when there's a danger of some desperate muppets actually voting for it.

A think a long term plan of work to rule, disruption strikes from the start of october followed by an all out walk out from mid November is the only way.

I can outlast the b'stards but I fear some of the workforce haven't the stomach or funds for it at this point.
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plymouth3
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by plymouth3 »

Put vote to strike or take offer
Best way to settle the matter
CRIBMAD
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by CRIBMAD »

guardianangel wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 16:02
We should be calling for strikes just over 3% a year after those robbers nicked all the money,treated you like dogs,suspended your friends deducted money from your pay,i cant believe what im reading sometimes ,call the strikes if they go into administration so be it the government will take it back over ,if anybody votes for this you will be treated like dirt for the rest of your working days .

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Trumanity
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by Trumanity »

Cedar_Room wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:54
£1,500 bribe?

Thought they were skint?

More horseshit from the RM hierarchy :left:
Assuming 69000 full timers (on a 60%/40% split on 115,000), that's £103,500,000 on just the lump sum, ignoring pro-rata and the % pay rise! Losing a million a day hmmmm :no no
CRIBMAD
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by CRIBMAD »

nuisance wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 15:58
No we don't, not when there's a danger of some desperate muppets actually voting for it.

A think a long term plan of work to rule, disruption strikes from the start of october followed by an all out walk out from mid November is the only way.

I can outlast the b'stards but I fear some of the workforce haven't the stomach or funds for it at this point.

here here
guardianangel
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by guardianangel »

rambo1 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:36
CRIBMAD wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:12
its amazing the amount of reasonably 'new' people coming out of the woodwork demanding a vote and slagging the union off - Thompson's team methinks
I'm not 'new' and I think it's perfectly reasonable for members who have lost money and been strung along by both sides, to actually see what will in all likelihood wil be as good as it gets and have a chance to end this and vote for it. After all this is our jobs were taking about, not the managers or cwu.
You wont have a decent job if you vote yes ,if you accept that payrise in 3 years cleaners will be on more money and you'll be out delivering in the dark until you finish all your deliveries from march 24.
walthmstowman
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by walthmstowman »

Linden14 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 11:16
Surely it's time for us to decide on the deal what do people think I want a vote?
I know management have probably put a spin on it but from what I’ve seen of the deal it’s not that bad but as always the devils in the detail . I’ll go with whatever the union says.
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Simondavid
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Re: We deserve a vote

Post by Simondavid »

koolishy67 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 12:12
10% pay over 3 years £1500 lump-sum
No sick pay and all the rest careful what you vote for!!