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CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by antcpfc »

chrisj wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 11:04
So rude Darren the solicitor MP on his first term of office wants Simon to say it is company policy to prioritise parcels over letters... Thereby justifying that the company is failing the USO and it is dysfunctional and needed to be sanctioned with giving the employees a 10% pay rise with no change to working patterns and to employ as many people as possible to cover sometimes 8% absence with no change in productivity and/or bring royal mail back into public ownership?

I don't get his game except that he is making a name for himself and stuck right up the Union's backside...

There is nowhere you will find that it is official company policy to prioritise parcels over letter. Premium products being given a priority is not quite the same thing, because ordinary parcels too are left sometimes.

He said something like it was an abuse of English to say that operational (paraphrase) circumstances sometimes dictate that letters will be left as opposed to parcels... What is wrong with that?

High levels of absence will come into the same operational reality not just strikes and Pandemic - Ricky did not explain that fully but kept on about strikes and recovery and Pandemic. No one wants to be doubling up on parcels for the next day (if the next day is quieter).
First name terms with “Ricky” are you :left:
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by ozcabs »

Better than going to pictures that.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by guardianangel »

Call the strikes now before its too late.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by FilthyBloke »

All a great show. Nothing more than a pantomime really.
Like watching old episodes of Jeremy Kyle or Judge Judy.

I doubt it will make the CEO change his approach and most likely the next week will see more big gloomy announcements from him and the CWU will continue their ‘rabbits in a headlight’ impression.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by Navalron »

POSTMAN wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 15:31
It's like watching 3 lying w*****s.
Yes and Ricky is the biggest one. Yes just the same as he always was. A CxxT.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by postslippete »

FilthyBloke wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 18:33
All a great show. Nothing more than a pantomime really.
Like watching old episodes of Jeremy Kyle or Judge Judy.

They should have done the Lie detector test but ST would have failed it because he just couldn't answer a simple YES or NO to whether there were systematic failures in the Royal Mail.

I mean if he honestly didn't think there were any systematic failures in Royal Mail then he could just have said NO!! The fact that he couldn't answer suggests otherwise....
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by FilthyBloke »

postslippete wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 18:15
FilthyBloke wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 18:33
All a great show. Nothing more than a pantomime really.
Like watching old episodes of Jeremy Kyle or Judge Judy.

They should have done the Lie detector test but ST would have failed it because he just couldn't answer a simple YES or NO to whether there were systematic failures in the Royal Mail.

I mean if he honestly didn't think there were any systematic failures in Royal Mail then he could just have said NO!! The fact that he couldn't answer suggests otherwise....
He answered like a politician. Swerving the question and answering in half truths and misdirection.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by Mr Rush »

postslippete wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 18:15
They should have done the Lie detector test but ST would have failed it because he just couldn't answer a simple YES or NO to whether there were systematic failures in the Royal Mail.
Polygraphs don't really detect lying, they just detect that the subject is uncomfortable with spinning a story they know is untrue. On a completely unrelated note, sociopaths are undetectable.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by Acca Dacca »

Mr Rush wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 23:51
postslippete wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 18:15
They should have done the Lie detector test but ST would have failed it because he just couldn't answer a simple YES or NO to whether there were systematic failures in the Royal Mail.
Polygraphs don't really detect lying, they just detect that the subject is uncomfortable with spinning a story they know is untrue.
That sounds like identifying a lie to me
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by steve1873 »

chrisj wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 11:04
So rude Darren the solicitor MP on his first term of office wants Simon to say it is company policy to prioritise parcels over letters... Thereby justifying that the company is failing the USO and it is dysfunctional and needed to be sanctioned with giving the employees a 10% pay rise with no change to working patterns and to employ as many people as possible to cover sometimes 8% absence with no change in productivity and/or bring royal mail back into public ownership?

I don't get his game except that he is making a name for himself and stuck right up the Union's backside...

There is nowhere you will find that it is official company policy to prioritise parcels over letter. Premium products being given a priority is not quite the same thing, because ordinary parcels too are left sometimes.

He said something like it was an abuse of English to say that operational (paraphrase) circumstances sometimes dictate that letters will be left as opposed to parcels... What is wrong with that?

High levels of absence will come into the same operational reality not just strikes and Pandemic - Ricky did not explain that fully but kept on about strikes and recovery and Pandemic. No one wants to be doubling up on parcels for the next day (if the next day is quieter).
The abuse of English comment was in regards Mcauley saying they would never say a postie was too slow.

By all means defend the 3 stooges, but please.try to be accurate about it.
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by chrisj »

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... statements

In this particular article, it was in reference to prioritising parcel - as per previous session and current...

I am not totally defending the guys but it was a bully job by MPs in league with the Union...

Personally, I dont give much hoot about the USO and the survey showing that most people wouldn't miss the Saturday letter delivery is accurate. Business will not care and most customers including myself are not desperate for Saturday letters. Such a move will make Royal Mail more profitable - for me, that is the most important things.

A lot of Posties are hypocritical when it comes to the USO and providing these so called public service. We do a job and are useful in the community but we are no Postman Pat; those days are gone, you might be on round where you meet and talk to very few people.

No Saturday letter mean just doing parcels and more Saturdays free - I wouldn't be happier!

Apparently, the non payment of a few days absence was just limited to strike period... People can correct me if I am wrong but folks are now being paid and a manager confirmed so, just today.

MPs are not lord and master; and it was not a court of law even if Darren Jones used to be a solicitor; not even a Barrister, but do full of his own importance
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Re: CWU video - RM bosses in Parliament again Weds 22/2

Post by postieblueshirt »

chrisj wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 15:46
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... statements

In this particular article, it was in reference to prioritising parcel - as per previous session and current...

I am not totally defending the guys but it was a bully job by MPs in league with the Union...

Personally, I dont give much hoot about the USO and the survey showing that most people wouldn't miss the Saturday letter delivery is accurate. Business will not care and most customers including myself are not desperate for Saturday letters. Such a move will make Royal Mail more profitable - for me, that is the most important things.

A lot of Posties are hypocritical when it comes to the USO and providing these so called public service. We do a job and are useful in the community but we are no Postman Pat; those days are gone, you might be on round where you meet and talk to very few people.

No Saturday letter mean just doing parcels and more Saturdays free - I wouldn't be happier!

Apparently, the non payment of a few days absence was just limited to strike period... People can correct me if I am wrong but folks are now being paid and a manager confirmed so, just today.

MPs are not lord and master; and it was not a court of law even if Darren Jones used to be a solicitor; not even a Barrister, but do full of his own importance
If this is the majority view in royal mail now better start looking for a white van and download QuickBooks coz were fuc**d....