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CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by zz666 »

What about the 30 minutes flex?
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Post by moonjaguar »

Those of us with kids to pick up at 3pm, will this be possible or should we be looking for another job?
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by ted_e_bear »

Martin Walsh wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 20:10
Out of 1250 Delivery units 330 will finish before 15:00 ,468 before 15:30 and 347 before 16:00. This is based on Wednesday traffic so the highest traffic so other days will be less and there are then only 109 units up to 16:30 mostly rural who currently have a last letter of 16:30.

The joint working groups will review mail centre processing and dispatch windows to reduce this further.

Every member will know their start and finish times for their unit in advance of the Ballot.
So if the times are already known why not just publish them now, it might help this thread, just saying...
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by Acca Dacca »

ted_e_bear wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 20:54
Martin Walsh wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 20:10
Out of 1250 Delivery units 330 will finish before 15:00 ,468 before 15:30 and 347 before 16:00. This is based on Wednesday traffic so the highest traffic so other days will be less and there are then only 109 units up to 16:30 mostly rural who currently have a last letter of 16:30.

The joint working groups will review mail centre processing and dispatch windows to reduce this further.

Every member will know their start and finish times for their unit in advance of the Ballot.
So if the times are already known why not just publish them now, it might help this thread, just saying...
This was the old proposal list which might give an indication of how much change there will be without those times being accurate - just in relation to other offices.

So I would imagine the offices with the lower of the time s( 15:35 on that list ) will be the offices Martin says will be before 15:00 now

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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by enskied »

" The True Story"

All stories are lies, spin.

The true facts are what we need, but we know them. Sold again but by our Union
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by Shadedpostie »

There's a comment on there asking about what family provisions are in place and the CWU reply with:

"For members with serious childcare issues"

......WTF does that even mean?!? :arrrghhh
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by ashmeister77 »

Keep Saturday finishing times around the same time and I would vote yes
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by cornstar18 »

moonjaguar wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 20:53
Those of us with kids to pick up at 3pm, will this be possible or should we be looking for another job?
Look now while the jobs are there. If it doesn't fit it doesn't fit. They aren't backing down
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by cornstar18 »

Shadedpostie wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 22:33
There's a comment on there asking about what family provisions are in place and the CWU reply with:

"For members with serious childcare issues"

......WTF does that even mean?!? :arrrghhh
You know what it means...
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by toonshola »

Shadedpostie wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 22:33
There's a comment on there asking about what family provisions are in place and the CWU reply with:

"For members with serious childcare issues"

......WTF does that even mean?!? :arrrghhh
I seriously have to pick my 6 and 3 year old kids up by 15.30 at very latest otherwise these changes will cost me £75 per week. Is this serious enough or does it have to be seriously serious? Maybe Dave Martin and the rest can sit around a table for a serious joint working group to seriously sort this out for me. Then after 7 months of serious meetings they can hand me a 25 paragraph letter, appendix’s the full works which will advise me to speak to my manager about changes.
The union are seriously full of s**t. Vote no.
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by moon71 »

Yep, biggest problem picking the kids up.

Vote yes, you'll still finish to late but maybe able to negotiate family friendly.

Vote no and you could be out on delivery until 1730 in two months.

Voting no to the deal doesn't necessarily mean you can still pick the kids up.

Seriously serious that Seriously you might need to consider all options.
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Post by aiden01 »

moon71 wrote:
28 Apr 2023, 07:21
Yep, biggest problem picking the kids up.

Vote yes, you'll still finish to late but maybe able to negotiate family friendly.

Vote no and you could be out on delivery until 1730 in two months.

Voting no to the deal doesn't necessarily mean you can still pick the kids up.

Seriously serious that Seriously you might need to consider all options.
Its not that they could be more than likely they will be.
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by SpacePhoenix »

In theory it might be an hour later but if the wave 2 is departing the MC an hour later, it might hit bad traffic everyday so the start times in the DOs would be made later still to take into account the lorries getting caught in traffic
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by Burghboy »

zz666 wrote:
27 Apr 2023, 20:47
What about the 30 minutes flex?
It’s voluntary, just say no!
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Re: CWU Video:The true story on later starts. It is a MAXIMUM of one hour. Everyone will know their proposed start time ahead of any vote

Post by ThatsNotPlumb »

Was thinking about this yesterday, obviously don't want my start & finish times adjusted at all, however IF my start time was shifted an hour I think I'd end up delivering less as I'm already going to have to leave earlier in order to give myself time to re-scan items brought back for this re-delivery nonsense, but I'll need to leave even more time in order to be driving back to the office in peak traffic hours.

You'd be surprised how the difference of an hour could quite easily turn a 10-20 minute journey into a 30+ minute journey if the traffic is bad.