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Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 11:39
I'm starting to wonder if next weeks strikes will actually go ahead
I’m also wondering that myself now. Especially if they are getting ACAS involved.
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I’ll be honest I thought ACAS/mediators were supposed to be involved before strike action called
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

Time to announce at least one day of weekly strike action from "Cyber Monday" through to New Year.
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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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Let’s wait and hear what the CWU have to say later, Simon you have had your say, we wait for the reply.
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I'm not naturally sympathetic but being on the Royal Mail sales force must be a thankless job.
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Any news or response from CWU does anyone know?
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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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All very confusing to me. How can they just decide to change or cancel agreements etc? I assumed things like that were legally protected? Very odd to me that they can just decide to change or cancel them.
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P+O got away with breaking the law so maybe RM think what the hell, what's the worst that can happen :thumbup
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pieoftheday wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:15
P+O got away with breaking the law so maybe RM think what the hell, what's the worst that can happen :thumbup
Completely different situation.
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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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mjd24 wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:07
All very confusing to me. How can they just decide to change or cancel agreements etc? I assumed things like that were legally protected? Very odd to me that they can just decide to change or cancel them.
This was discussed in the "Simon's update" thread which was subsequently locked. Basically the industrial action gave RM the right to serve notice on elements of the agreement, so they have done it because the strikes mean that they are allowed to.
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KnowItAll wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:23
mjd24 wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:07
All very confusing to me. How can they just decide to change or cancel agreements etc? I assumed things like that were legally protected? Very odd to me that they can just decide to change or cancel them.
This was discussed in the "Simon's update" thread which was subsequently locked. Basically the industrial action gave RM the right to serve notice on elements of the agreement, so they have done it because the strikes mean that they are allowed to.
Right ok, i see. Worrying times.
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Pidleypoo wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:18
pieoftheday wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:15
P+O got away with breaking the law so maybe RM think what the hell, what's the worst that can happen :thumbup
Completely different situation.
It may well be, however the attitude of management toward the workforce is the same
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Not everyone will agree but they are only words at the moment.
Remain calm and carry on RM are getting more and more desperate as today's announcement shows.
I think that getting these proposals through are not quite as easy as RM make out.
Time will tell.
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Where is the mention of the imposed extra 3.5% for “change” can we assume that will automatically be applied to our wage when these executive actions are imposed?
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Re: Royal Mail's latest plan: Modernising our ways of working with the CWU, and involving Acas in our talks

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pieoftheday wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:41
Pidleypoo wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:18
pieoftheday wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 13:15
P+O got away with breaking the law so maybe RM think what the hell, what's the worst that can happen :thumbup
Completely different situation.
It may well be, however the attitude of management toward the workforce is the same
Doesn’t matter , the law does.