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Pay increase imposed without agreement?
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POSTMAN
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
Anthony Bouch
After announcing the 2% pay increase has been imposed via Executive Action here are the changes which RM are proposing and want for the future and for 1.5% pay rise and a further £400-£500 lump sum payment, are as follows for RM employees:
Flexible working - via Annualised Hours and proposed form of seasonal variation via 2 weeks notice of changes. That would also include a flexitime bank system for on the day variations!
Allowance Reviews - consolidation of supplements, buyout of legacy payments, change to Inner and outer London weighting to an average 1 payment and phased removal of Sunday premium payments.
Sunday working a normal day and as above on a reduction to existing pay rates.
Green Agenda - changes to the pipeline/network meaning a later window and adding up to 3 hours across the operation enabled by later delivery start times. This would impact on every function, Processing shifts, Area Distribution services, Network services and Delivery start and finish times.
Revised terms and conditions for new employees - lower hourly rate of approx £11.62 and salary of £24,170 a year outside of London a new full time employee would earn a minimum of £1,580 less on basic pay. However they would be expected to work 40 hours per week (3 hours more than current FT employees) meaning the impact is much greater and significantly worse terms and conditions!
Absence Policy - reductions to sick pay via introduction of Statutory Sick Pay after the first absence in 12 months and for the 1 week of absence. Changes to the attendance standards via changing trigger points and increasing the time to come of the procedures. Leaving the business via I’ll health significantly worsened terms.
Above and Beyond Bonus Scheme - citied as 2% increase in pay, however it’s actually a maximum of £500 lump sum and not consolidated into basic pay. However subject to increased productivity, advancing year 3 targets into year 2, eligibility conditions at employee level and not offices.
In addition to that the same principles above would also apply via revised criteria for all Parcelforce Worldwide Employees and Fleet Employees, meaning significant changes to working practices and pay/reward.
After announcing the 2% pay increase has been imposed via Executive Action here are the changes which RM are proposing and want for the future and for 1.5% pay rise and a further £400-£500 lump sum payment, are as follows for RM employees:
Flexible working - via Annualised Hours and proposed form of seasonal variation via 2 weeks notice of changes. That would also include a flexitime bank system for on the day variations!
Allowance Reviews - consolidation of supplements, buyout of legacy payments, change to Inner and outer London weighting to an average 1 payment and phased removal of Sunday premium payments.
Sunday working a normal day and as above on a reduction to existing pay rates.
Green Agenda - changes to the pipeline/network meaning a later window and adding up to 3 hours across the operation enabled by later delivery start times. This would impact on every function, Processing shifts, Area Distribution services, Network services and Delivery start and finish times.
Revised terms and conditions for new employees - lower hourly rate of approx £11.62 and salary of £24,170 a year outside of London a new full time employee would earn a minimum of £1,580 less on basic pay. However they would be expected to work 40 hours per week (3 hours more than current FT employees) meaning the impact is much greater and significantly worse terms and conditions!
Absence Policy - reductions to sick pay via introduction of Statutory Sick Pay after the first absence in 12 months and for the 1 week of absence. Changes to the attendance standards via changing trigger points and increasing the time to come of the procedures. Leaving the business via I’ll health significantly worsened terms.
Above and Beyond Bonus Scheme - citied as 2% increase in pay, however it’s actually a maximum of £500 lump sum and not consolidated into basic pay. However subject to increased productivity, advancing year 3 targets into year 2, eligibility conditions at employee level and not offices.
In addition to that the same principles above would also apply via revised criteria for all Parcelforce Worldwide Employees and Fleet Employees, meaning significant changes to working practices and pay/reward.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Deadly
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
Well that’s one way to guarantee an overwhelming yes vote.
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Pidleypoo
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They’re genuinely mental. Who in their right mind wants any of that change that actually does the job ?
These changes won’t grow the company, they’ll kill it stone dead.
These changes won’t grow the company, they’ll kill it stone dead.
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2yearpostie
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The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
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twoloops
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
Anyone think owd Slymon is trying to make us posties look greedy & lazy?
Royal Mail boss issues union plea as costs crisis keeps prices 'under review' https://news.sky.com/story/royal-mail-b ... w-12634286
Royal Mail boss issues union plea as costs crisis keeps prices 'under review' https://news.sky.com/story/royal-mail-b ... w-12634286
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A2B
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
So you will believe "super si" but not your union?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 13:49The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
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2yearpostie
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.A2B wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:39So you will believe "super si" but not your union?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 13:49The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
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clashcityrocker
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Is this the first we have heard about changes to London Weighting?
No wonder Dingo had his knickers in a twist.
No wonder Dingo had his knickers in a twist.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Fdeezy
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
Come on guys, he's doing us a favour. 
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fb1969
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
And again the lie about 5.5% this year is repeated
Simon I'll make this simple, 1.5% is from the date of the changes but the financial year started on 1 April. It cannot be backdated, so that part of the offer cannot apply to whole year.
After the bollocks you sold to the markets and now this blatant lie, you really need to try harder with your lies.
Simon I'll make this simple, 1.5% is from the date of the changes but the financial year started on 1 April. It cannot be backdated, so that part of the offer cannot apply to whole year.
After the bollocks you sold to the markets and now this blatant lie, you really need to try harder with your lies.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
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guardianangel
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Please lets not just strike for 1 day lets gets those ballots back and as soon as the yes vote comes back 7 days notice full 1 week strike ,and continue until that clown Thompson is gone.
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Jack1960
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
How much is it currently, just curiousclashcityrocker wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:52Is this the first we have heard about changes to London Weighting?
No wonder Dingo had his knickers in a twist.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?
I think:
£100/week inner London.
£75/week outer London.
Inner London is something bizarre like a 4 mile radius from Charing Cross.
£100/week inner London.
£75/week outer London.
Inner London is something bizarre like a 4 mile radius from Charing Cross.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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A2B
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You work for RM and see how they operate but you're still prepared to believe what they say?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:45Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.A2B wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:39So you will believe "super si" but not your union?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 13:49The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
Curious do you work in an office that has featured in the Courier?
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2yearpostie
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No I just dont blindly believe everything that El Tel has to say, hes more than capable of stretching the truth to get what he wants to, id prefer a balanced view and to hear what they both have to say before making a choice.A2B wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 15:32You work for RM and see how they operate but you're still prepared to believe what they say?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:45Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.A2B wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 14:39So you will believe "super si" but not your union?2yearpostie wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 13:49The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
Curious do you work in an office that has featured in the Courier?