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Pay increase imposed without agreement?

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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?

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After announcing the 2% pay increase has been imposed via Executive Action here are the changes which RM are proposing and want for the future and for 1.5% pay rise and a further £400-£500 lump sum payment, are as follows for RM employees:

Flexible working - via Annualised Hours and proposed form of seasonal variation via 2 weeks notice of changes. That would also include a flexitime bank system for on the day variations!

Allowance Reviews - consolidation of supplements, buyout of legacy payments, change to Inner and outer London weighting to an average 1 payment and phased removal of Sunday premium payments.

Sunday working a normal day and as above on a reduction to existing pay rates.

Green Agenda - changes to the pipeline/network meaning a later window and adding up to 3 hours across the operation enabled by later delivery start times. This would impact on every function, Processing shifts, Area Distribution services, Network services and Delivery start and finish times.

Revised terms and conditions for new employees - lower hourly rate of approx £11.62 and salary of £24,170 a year outside of London a new full time employee would earn a minimum of £1,580 less on basic pay. However they would be expected to work 40 hours per week (3 hours more than current FT employees) meaning the impact is much greater and significantly worse terms and conditions!

Absence Policy - reductions to sick pay via introduction of Statutory Sick Pay after the first absence in 12 months and for the 1 week of absence. Changes to the attendance standards via changing trigger points and increasing the time to come of the procedures. Leaving the business via I’ll health significantly worsened terms.

Above and Beyond Bonus Scheme - citied as 2% increase in pay, however it’s actually a maximum of £500 lump sum and not consolidated into basic pay. However subject to increased productivity, advancing year 3 targets into year 2, eligibility conditions at employee level and not offices.

In addition to that the same principles above would also apply via revised criteria for all Parcelforce Worldwide Employees and Fleet Employees, meaning significant changes to working practices and pay/reward.
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Well that’s one way to guarantee an overwhelming yes vote.
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They’re genuinely mental. Who in their right mind wants any of that change that actually does the job ?

These changes won’t grow the company, they’ll kill it stone dead.
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The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
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Anyone think owd Slymon is trying to make us posties look greedy & lazy?

Royal Mail boss issues union plea as costs crisis keeps prices 'under review' https://news.sky.com/story/royal-mail-b ... w-12634286
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2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 13:49
The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
So you will believe "super si" but not your union?
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A2B wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:39
2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 13:49
The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
So you will believe "super si" but not your union?
Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.
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Is this the first we have heard about changes to London Weighting?
No wonder Dingo had his knickers in a twist.
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Come on guys, he's doing us a favour. :nana
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And again the lie about 5.5% this year is repeated

Simon I'll make this simple, 1.5% is from the date of the changes but the financial year started on 1 April. It cannot be backdated, so that part of the offer cannot apply to whole year.

After the bollocks you sold to the markets and now this blatant lie, you really need to try harder with your lies.
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Please lets not just strike for 1 day lets gets those ballots back and as soon as the yes vote comes back 7 days notice full 1 week strike ,and continue until that clown Thompson is gone.
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:52
Is this the first we have heard about changes to London Weighting?
No wonder Dingo had his knickers in a twist.
How much is it currently, just curious
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I think:
£100/week inner London.
£75/week outer London.

Inner London is something bizarre like a 4 mile radius from Charing Cross.
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?

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2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:45
A2B wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:39
2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 13:49
The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
So you will believe "super si" but not your union?
Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.
You work for RM and see how they operate but you're still prepared to believe what they say?

Curious do you work in an office that has featured in the Courier?
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Re: Pay increase imposed without agreement?

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A2B wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 15:32
2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:45
A2B wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:39
2yearpostie wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 13:49
The truth as ever will be somewhere between what the company want and what the union say the company want.
Untill Super Si give US the details of what changes he wants we dont truley know.
So you will believe "super si" but not your union?
Two sides to every story, The truth is normally in the middle and weve not heard from SI what changes they want.
You work for RM and see how they operate but you're still prepared to believe what they say?

Curious do you work in an office that has featured in the Courier?
No I just dont blindly believe everything that El Tel has to say, hes more than capable of stretching the truth to get what he wants to, id prefer a balanced view and to hear what they both have to say before making a choice.