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LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
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LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
No. 191/20
9th April 2020
Dear Colleagues,
EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
Easter Saturday, 11th April 2020 – Non-Service Day
Further to LTB 185/20 circulated on 6th April, please find attached the response the union has received from Sally Ashford, Chief HR Officer at RMG. Colleagues will note that unfortunately the business has declined to action the CWU’s proposal on the grounds that seeking to declare a non-service day at this time would not be consistent with the company’s objectives. Obviously this response is disappointing, especially in light of the additional pressures that many postal workers have faced during this difficult time and the fact that having the Saturday off would have allowed them a much needed break with their families.
Bank Holiday Policy
Colleagues will also note that in response to my letter of 8th April (attached) the company has confirmed that the current bank holiday policy in respect of overtime payments and Lieu Days has not been changed and should therefore be applied without any difficulty.
Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
LTB 191. 20 Easter Bank Holiday https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
LTB 191.20 Attachment 1 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
LTB 191.20 Attachment 2 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-k/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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No. 191/20
9th April 2020
Dear Colleagues,
EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
Easter Saturday, 11th April 2020 – Non-Service Day
Further to LTB 185/20 circulated on 6th April, please find attached the response the union has received from Sally Ashford, Chief HR Officer at RMG. Colleagues will note that unfortunately the business has declined to action the CWU’s proposal on the grounds that seeking to declare a non-service day at this time would not be consistent with the company’s objectives. Obviously this response is disappointing, especially in light of the additional pressures that many postal workers have faced during this difficult time and the fact that having the Saturday off would have allowed them a much needed break with their families.
Bank Holiday Policy
Colleagues will also note that in response to my letter of 8th April (attached) the company has confirmed that the current bank holiday policy in respect of overtime payments and Lieu Days has not been changed and should therefore be applied without any difficulty.
Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
LTB 191. 20 Easter Bank Holiday https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
LTB 191.20 Attachment 1 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
LTB 191.20 Attachment 2 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-k/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
View Online https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-u/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!! 
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So in layman’s terms & without clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
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Yes we are.twoloops wrote:So in layman’s terms & with clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
Unless it is your day off or you are self isolating.
Or have been precautionary suspended. Or are on holiday.
Or retired.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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ssdd
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Well, we've got MONEY to make...and parcels to take! We're in, unfortunately. RM said NO. Are you surprised?twoloops wrote:So in layman’s terms & with clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
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twoloops
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Fantastic can’t wait
my money’s on they didn’t even ask 
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chickenwittle
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All a bit of a waste of time really .As if Royal Mail would show compassion over profit .
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Did you honestly expect them to grant it.ssdd wrote:Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!!
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To quote a paragraph of the response;
"To voluntary step aside from our service obligations through a rest day, no matter how well intentioned, does not sit comfortably"
Given the decision by Ofcom not to penalise Royal Mail, if they did not meet the official requirement, it does appear the "service obligations" in regard to Ofcom were not at issue. However it does show, imo, the importance of a six day USO letter & packet delivery.
"To voluntary step aside from our service obligations through a rest day, no matter how well intentioned, does not sit comfortably"
Given the decision by Ofcom not to penalise Royal Mail, if they did not meet the official requirement, it does appear the "service obligations" in regard to Ofcom were not at issue. However it does show, imo, the importance of a six day USO letter & packet delivery.
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I'd have been more surprised if they didaiden01 wrote:Did you honestly expect them to grant it.ssdd wrote:Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!!
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The thing is, whatever Terry asks for they are going to rebuff. The bed's been made.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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It was all a bit short notice though really. We all know rm need 3 mths to do anything.
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Could have given 12 months notice and the answer would have been the same. They know Christmas is coming but are shocked when it arrives.2yearpostie wrote:It was all a bit short notice though really. We all know rm need 3 mths to do anything.
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It did make me laugh.POSTMAN wrote:The thing is, whatever Terry asks for they are going to rebuff. The bed's been made.
The CWU called the board all the names under the sun, had an industrial action ballot and accused them of putting our lives at risk... then asked for a little favour.
Under the circumstances I was expecting the reply to go.
Dear Dave and Tel.
Lol.
Love and hugs,
Rico.
Only dead fish follow the current
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LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY
From RM ;-
Dear Terry,
we note your letters and disregard them. We love to watch your videos spouting all sorts of fighting talk to your members ( right on comrade ) and yet, apart from some aggrieved emails and yet more letters, you simply don't take any action to make us change our minds ( about anything ). We shall continue to take Executive Action changing start and finish times and methods of working as we please ( your members have to agree as there is little / no opposition from many of your local reps
) .
We may have to delay our ultimate goals slightly due to all this fuss over a virus ( personally none of us want to be within 2km of your members, let alone 2 metres ).
However, we must congratulate you and your cohorts for your inaction during this crisis as the parcel count has gone through the roof
and the concerted efforts of the delivery guys to get as much done as possible in a shift means we now have the data capture to prove that a 14% efficency improvement over the next 4 years is easily achievable and will be expected. Unfortunately the improvements required to achieve your members 6% pay rise over 3 years is 15% ( we may increase this at our discretion, especially if we get close to achieving it ).
Anyway, we are off until Tuesday at the earliest, keep up the good work.
Hugs
Rico and the gang
Dear Terry,
we note your letters and disregard them. We love to watch your videos spouting all sorts of fighting talk to your members ( right on comrade ) and yet, apart from some aggrieved emails and yet more letters, you simply don't take any action to make us change our minds ( about anything ). We shall continue to take Executive Action changing start and finish times and methods of working as we please ( your members have to agree as there is little / no opposition from many of your local reps
We may have to delay our ultimate goals slightly due to all this fuss over a virus ( personally none of us want to be within 2km of your members, let alone 2 metres ).
However, we must congratulate you and your cohorts for your inaction during this crisis as the parcel count has gone through the roof
Anyway, we are off until Tuesday at the earliest, keep up the good work.
Hugs
Rico and the gang