ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

CWU LTB's
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72539
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

No. 191/20

9th April 2020



Dear Colleagues,


EASTER BANK HOLIDAY


Easter Saturday, 11th April 2020 – Non-Service Day

Further to LTB 185/20 circulated on 6th April, please find attached the response the union has received from Sally Ashford, Chief HR Officer at RMG. Colleagues will note that unfortunately the business has declined to action the CWU’s proposal on the grounds that seeking to declare a non-service day at this time would not be consistent with the company’s objectives. Obviously this response is disappointing, especially in light of the additional pressures that many postal workers have faced during this difficult time and the fact that having the Saturday off would have allowed them a much needed break with their families.

Bank Holiday Policy

Colleagues will also note that in response to my letter of 8th April (attached) the company has confirmed that the current bank holiday policy in respect of overtime payments and Lieu Days has not been changed and should therefore be applied without any difficulty.

Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely,

Terry Pullinger

Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

LTB 191. 20 Easter Bank Holiday https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-d/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LTB 191.20 Attachment 1 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-h/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LTB 191.20 Attachment 2 https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-k/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;




View Online https://emails.cwu.org/t/d-l-mtiuktl-jtfltzjh-u/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
ssdd
Posts: 2053
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 22:39
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by ssdd »

Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!! :thumbdown
twoloops
Posts: 2002
Joined: 24 May 2017, 20:52
Gender: Male
Location: Sheffield

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by twoloops »

So in layman’s terms & without clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
Last edited by twoloops on 09 Apr 2020, 16:03, edited 1 time in total.
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16465
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by clashcityrocker »

twoloops wrote:So in layman’s terms & with clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
Yes we are.
Unless it is your day off or you are self isolating.
Or have been precautionary suspended. Or are on holiday.
Or retired.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
ssdd
Posts: 2053
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 22:39
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by ssdd »

twoloops wrote:So in layman’s terms & with clicking on all the CWU drivel, are we in Saturday or not?
Well, we've got MONEY to make...and parcels to take! We're in, unfortunately. RM said NO. Are you surprised?
twoloops
Posts: 2002
Joined: 24 May 2017, 20:52
Gender: Male
Location: Sheffield

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by twoloops »

Fantastic can’t wait :cry my money’s on they didn’t even ask ;liar
Last edited by twoloops on 09 Apr 2020, 16:07, edited 1 time in total.
chickenwittle
Posts: 2088
Joined: 15 Nov 2009, 09:43
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by chickenwittle »

All a bit of a waste of time really .As if Royal Mail would show compassion over profit .
aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 7001
Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by aiden01 »

ssdd wrote:Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!! :thumbdown
Did you honestly expect them to grant it.
rogersh
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1373
Joined: 26 Oct 2011, 11:31
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by rogersh »

To quote a paragraph of the response;
"To voluntary step aside from our service obligations through a rest day, no matter how well intentioned, does not sit comfortably"

Given the decision by Ofcom not to penalise Royal Mail, if they did not meet the official requirement, it does appear the "service obligations" in regard to Ofcom were not at issue. However it does show, imo, the importance of a six day USO letter & packet delivery.
ssdd
Posts: 2053
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 22:39
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by ssdd »

aiden01 wrote:
ssdd wrote:Yeah, it's pretty clear what the company's objectives are!! :thumbdown
Did you honestly expect them to grant it.
I'd have been more surprised if they did
User avatar
POSTMAN
SITE ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 32695
Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by POSTMAN »

The thing is, whatever Terry asks for they are going to rebuff. The bed's been made.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
2yearpostie
Posts: 1839
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 15:36
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by 2yearpostie »

It was all a bit short notice though really. We all know rm need 3 mths to do anything.
Rumple
Posts: 428
Joined: 20 Nov 2013, 10:45
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by Rumple »

2yearpostie wrote:It was all a bit short notice though really. We all know rm need 3 mths to do anything.
Could have given 12 months notice and the answer would have been the same. They know Christmas is coming but are shocked when it arrives.
Woody Guthrie
Posts: 5166
Joined: 29 Sep 2018, 20:47
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by Woody Guthrie »

POSTMAN wrote:The thing is, whatever Terry asks for they are going to rebuff. The bed's been made.
It did make me laugh.
The CWU called the board all the names under the sun, had an industrial action ballot and accused them of putting our lives at risk... then asked for a little favour.

Under the circumstances I was expecting the reply to go.

Dear Dave and Tel.

Lol.

Love and hugs,
Rico.
Only dead fish follow the current
JKSmudge
Posts: 395
Joined: 26 Mar 2015, 13:39
Gender: Male

LTB 191/20 - EASTER BANK HOLIDAY

Post by JKSmudge »

From RM ;-

Dear Terry,
we note your letters and disregard them. We love to watch your videos spouting all sorts of fighting talk to your members ( right on comrade ) and yet, apart from some aggrieved emails and yet more letters, you simply don't take any action to make us change our minds ( about anything ). We shall continue to take Executive Action changing start and finish times and methods of working as we please ( your members have to agree as there is little / no opposition from many of your local reps :Very Happy ) .

We may have to delay our ultimate goals slightly due to all this fuss over a virus ( personally none of us want to be within 2km of your members, let alone 2 metres ).

However, we must congratulate you and your cohorts for your inaction during this crisis as the parcel count has gone through the roof :Applause and the concerted efforts of the delivery guys to get as much done as possible in a shift means we now have the data capture to prove that a 14% efficency improvement over the next 4 years is easily achievable and will be expected. Unfortunately the improvements required to achieve your members 6% pay rise over 3 years is 15% ( we may increase this at our discretion, especially if we get close to achieving it ).

Anyway, we are off until Tuesday at the earliest, keep up the good work.

Hugs

Rico and the gang :wave