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LTB 511/16 - Annual Leave/Resourcing Guidelines

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DiamondSmiles
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Post by DiamondSmiles »

In our office there are still around 50 posties yet to pick their last 3 weeks leave, just when we are about to start week 2 of the leave year. An utter disgrace.
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Post by thelittlesthobo »

I have annual leave left over from last year - can management force me to use it up rather than carrying it over into the next annual leave year? I don't want to take any of the remaining weeks available on the leave sheet.
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Post by feduppostie »

You can only carry a maximum of 1 week over in special circumstances
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Unfortunately, as the law stands yes they can tell you when to take leave as long as they give you enough notice. A least as much notice as the length of the leave.

As I say this isn't just Royal Mail, it's the law of the land.

Also if you refuse to take the carried over leave as instructed before the end of this leave year, you could lose it outright as they have given you the option of taking it and in effect, you have voluntarily surrendered the leave. This part is only an opinion so you may want to get advice from professionals or ACAS.
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Post by bloot »

dont even get a choice of holidays , they are just allocated and thats that !
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Post by blue1873 »

feduppostie wrote:You can only carry a maximum of 1 week over in special circumstances
A few guys in my office (MC) carrying anything up to twenty (yes 20) days in lieu and have great difficulty
getting time off , one guy applied for fifteen days owing to him as he was going to the Far East on holiday
only to be told he could'nt get the Fridays off although he could have the Fridays off if he took Special Leave
without pay .People outwith Royal Mail think your at the wind- up when you tell them these stories. You really
could'nt make these things up but RM do .
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Post by k979aaa »

bloot wrote:dont even get a choice of holidays , they are just allocated and thats that !
you should have a preference form once a year.
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Post by bloot »

k979aaa wrote:
bloot wrote:dont even get a choice of holidays , they are just allocated and thats that !
you should have a preference form once a year.
never heard of this , been with royal mail for a few years now and just accepted the way it has been . allocated holidays in two blocks , block of two weeks and a block of three and told that if i want to change them i have to try and swap time with another colleague .
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Post by k979aaa »

bloot wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
bloot wrote:dont even get a choice of holidays , they are just allocated and thats that !
you should have a preference form once a year.
never heard of this , been with royal mail for a few years now and just accepted the way it has been . allocated holidays in two blocks , block of two weeks and a block of three and told that if i want to change them i have to try and swap time with another colleague .
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Post by Driver74 »

Been in Royal Mail a long time now but have always had a leave preference form usually have to put down lots of choices depending if its seniority or juniority year last couple of years they have let everyone have their first choice for 2 weeks summer leave which is better
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Post by Neverwasadoor »

First post so hope I make sense :Very Happy
We have 5 leave reserves but only 5 slots in the summer months. Most times 4 or 3 because they keep reserves back in case its busy. Is this standard because it restricts peoples picks. Not everyone wants summer.
Thanks.
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Post by POSTMAN »

Neverwasadoor wrote:First post so hope I make sense :Very Happy
We have 5 leave reserves but only 5 slots in the summer months. Most times 4 or 3 because they keep reserves back in case its busy. Is this standard because it restricts peoples picks. Not everyone wants summer.
Thanks.
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Post by Neverwasadoor »

Thanks for response
Unfortunately local rep and area rep are going along with it ( I think for a quiet life).
I just can't understand it. As I see it we have 5 leave reserves there should be five slots open per week.
I didn't think slots could be closed for traffic or unforeseen sick.
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Post by POSTMAN »

Ok,the amount of reserves you have does not necessarily mean it's the same amount of leave slots.
Leave slots should use the formula in the 1st post.
There is no closure for sickness or 'traffic weeks' whatever that is.Only closure is for xmas pressure weeks.
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Post by fishtank »

How can you close weeks for traffic or sick if you're booking your holidays a year in advance? Are they psychic? Anyway unforseens are what loaners are for. We get them in from time to time if we have too many sick.
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