A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

[NWpostie]

Because people want less immigration from predominantly 3rd world countries isn’t racism. While immigration can be positive for example my wife emigrated here to work the majority has no benefit to the country at all.

Bring in over 800000 people a year net isn’t healthy for public services and housing stocks. Quite a few who migrate here don’t migrate into British culture either which also annoys people many places for example are just like places from the sub continent but stuck in the middle of a poor working class town.

If you look across Europe and the western world in general immigration is a huge talking point and it really is time western governments did something about it.

The is a reason Reform are doing well is because they are brave enough to talk about the problem with immigration the uni party just want more of the same.

You have extremes in every party because a man who supposedly represents Reform doesn’t like brown people or a Labour supporter hates Jews doesn’t mean the whole party is racist. Personally I think the term racist has lost all credibility similar with the term far right.

Pretty much my thoughts too.

It's a numbers thing, not a race thing, even immigrants themselves think its getting out of hand.

The Left likes to paint anyone opposing as racist, classic Left wing thoughtcrime dog whistling ironic when considering they are the most hypocritical bigots themselves.

I think reform are racist because they have people running their campaign who talk about machine gunning down immigrants in dinghies, talking about knocking down mosques and replacing them with weatherspoons, calling people with brown skin p*kis, talking about ring fencing Bradford and having all the residents there shot, saying ambulance staff should refuse oxygen to anyone with brown skin etc etc. And that is just from one encounter.

Doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with numbers really, but if you want to convince yourself you aren’t voting for a racist party, whatever lets you sleep at night.

You still haven't addressed house and service shortages ability to cope with increased numbers, why do you think house prices and rent are increasing exponentially, HMOs becoming the norm for young adults, illegal migrants being put in hotels and camps ? You have no solution to offer except cry "Racist" to shut down any debate, that trope is wearing very thin.

If you think immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are to blame for housing and services shortages, then you really haven’t been paying attention.

Well....... Yes of course it is, it's logical the last 10 years have seen a sharp rise in population which can't be explained away by increased birth rate when actually it's falling ! So where do you think the extra people are coming from ? Along with housing shortages, it would have been wiser to manage numbers to match resources.

https://images.app.goo.gl/z9BCSiVUJDFXfQ9X9

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/p ... e-in-2024/

https://www.centreforcities.org/publica ... ng-crisis/

4.3 million homes needs to be built which can't be done in a day and each year we have between 300,000 to 550,000 per year arriving and needed to be accommodated somewhere, so unless you're prepared to give up your spare room and living room to people without safeguarding background checks if you have children or vulnerable people in your homes as well, you wouldn't let a strange adult supervise your kids in a club or activities without an enhanced DBS clearance would you ?

I'm not interested in Reform/Labour/Conservatives/LibDems they're all as bad as each other.


Crying "Racist" solves absolutely nothing.

[Hyrrokkin]

Because people want less immigration from predominantly 3rd world countries isn’t racism. While immigration can be positive for example my wife emigrated here to work the majority has no benefit to the country at all.

Bring in over 800000 people a year net isn’t healthy for public services and housing stocks. Quite a few who migrate here don’t migrate into British culture either which also annoys people many places for example are just like places from the sub continent but stuck in the middle of a poor working class town.

If you look across Europe and the western world in general immigration is a huge talking point and it really is time western governments did something about it.

The is a reason Reform are doing well is because they are brave enough to talk about the problem with immigration the uni party just want more of the same.

You have extremes in every party because a man who supposedly represents Reform doesn’t like brown people or a Labour supporter hates Jews doesn’t mean the whole party is racist. Personally I think the term racist has lost all credibility similar with the term far right.

Pretty much my thoughts too.

It's a numbers thing, not a race thing, even immigrants themselves think its getting out of hand.

The Left likes to paint anyone opposing as racist, classic Left wing thoughtcrime dog whistling ironic when considering they are the most hypocritical bigots themselves.

Exactly -

If i am racist then so are millions of UK citizens then

The virtue signalling brigade will be out in full force to shut everyone down

[LouBarlow]

Because people want less immigration from predominantly 3rd world countries isn’t racism. While immigration can be positive for example my wife emigrated here to work the majority has no benefit to the country at all.

Bring in over 800000 people a year net isn’t healthy for public services and housing stocks. Quite a few who migrate here don’t migrate into British culture either which also annoys people many places for example are just like places from the sub continent but stuck in the middle of a poor working class town.

If you look across Europe and the western world in general immigration is a huge talking point and it really is time western governments did something about it.

The is a reason Reform are doing well is because they are brave enough to talk about the problem with immigration the uni party just want more of the same.

You have extremes in every party because a man who supposedly represents Reform doesn’t like brown people or a Labour supporter hates Jews doesn’t mean the whole party is racist. Personally I think the term racist has lost all credibility similar with the term far right.

Pretty much my thoughts too.

It's a numbers thing, not a race thing, even immigrants themselves think its getting out of hand.

The Left likes to paint anyone opposing as racist, classic Left wing thoughtcrime dog whistling ironic when considering they are the most hypocritical bigots themselves.

I think reform are racist because they have people running their campaign who talk about machine gunning down immigrants in dinghies, talking about knocking down mosques and replacing them with weatherspoons, calling people with brown skin p*kis, talking about ring fencing Bradford and having all the residents there shot, saying ambulance staff should refuse oxygen to anyone with brown skin etc etc. And that is just from one encounter.

Doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with numbers really, but if you want to convince yourself you aren’t voting for a racist party, whatever lets you sleep at night.

You still haven't addressed house and service shortages ability to cooe with increased numbers, why do you think house prices and rent are increasing exponentially, illegal migrants being put in hotels and camps ? You have no solution to offer except cry "Racist" to shut down any debate, that trope is wearing very thin.

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

[milly]

Because people want less immigration from predominantly 3rd world countries isn’t racism. While immigration can be positive for example my wife emigrated here to work the majority has no benefit to the country at all.

Bring in over 800000 people a year net isn’t healthy for public services and housing stocks. Quite a few who migrate here don’t migrate into British culture either which also annoys people many places for example are just like places from the sub continent but stuck in the middle of a poor working class town.

If you look across Europe and the western world in general immigration is a huge talking point and it really is time western governments did something about it.

The is a reason Reform are doing well is because they are brave enough to talk about the problem with immigration the uni party just want more of the same.

You have extremes in every party because a man who supposedly represents Reform doesn’t like brown people or a Labour supporter hates Jews doesn’t mean the whole party is racist. Personally I think the term racist has lost all credibility similar with the term far right.

Pretty much my thoughts too.

It's a numbers thing, not a race thing, even immigrants themselves think its getting out of hand.

The Left likes to paint anyone opposing as racist, classic Left wing thoughtcrime dog whistling ironic when considering they are the most hypocritical bigots themselves.

I think reform are racist because they have people running their campaign who talk about machine gunning down immigrants in dinghies, talking about knocking down mosques and replacing them with weatherspoons, calling people with brown skin p*kis, talking about ring fencing Bradford and having all the residents there shot, saying ambulance staff should refuse oxygen to anyone with brown skin etc etc. And that is just from one encounter.

Doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with numbers really, but if you want to convince yourself you aren’t voting for a racist party, whatever lets you sleep at night.

You still haven't addressed house and service shortages ability to cooe with increased numbers, why do you think house prices and rent are increasing exponentially, illegal migrants being put in hotels and camps ? You have no solution to offer except cry "Racist" to shut down any debate, that trope is wearing very thin.

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

How do you raise wages?

[Nickvilla20]

High unskilled immigration numbers keep salaries low. A job we would do for £12 an hour a migrant may do for £10 or even less in the gig economy I mean how many British people do you see doing fast food deliveries.

When my wife was on a tier 2 visa she had to be earning a minimum of £30k to qualify for a visa this was then dropped to £25k when we left the EU and in certain circumstances it could be even less.

Higher the population the lower wages will be and more expensive housing will be due to demand. The gig economy and low wage growth has also been a big factor in why our job has gone rapidly downhill.

[Tman]

How do you make homes "more affordable"?
More Starmerisms. Good soundbites, zero meaning.

[Nickvilla20]

How do you make homes "more affordable"?
More Starmerisms. Good soundbites, zero meaning.

The value of my house has increased £100k since I bought it in 2017 and the town I live in has built plenty of new homes. Houses won’t become affordable anytime soon.

[LouBarlow]

How do you make homes "more affordable"?
More Starmerisms. Good soundbites, zero meaning.

Reduce the cost of living by making the rich pay more taxes into the pot and reduce the tax burden on those less able to afford it. No tax to be paid by those earning less than 20k a year. Then raise the minimum wage to £15 an hour. Incentivise people to work in low skill jobs.

Then you make new build homes only available to those who are buying them to live in them not rent them out and make a profit. At the same time construction companies who are building these large estates should commit to construction of schools and other essentials as part of their proposals when it comes to planning permission.

[milly]

How do you make homes "more affordable"?
More Starmerisms. Good soundbites, zero meaning.

Reduce the cost of living by making the rich pay more taxes into the pot and reduce the tax burden on those less able to afford it. No tax to be paid by those earning less than 20k a year. Then raise the minimum wage to £15 an hour. Incentivise people to work in low skill jobs.

Then you make new build homes only available to those who are buying them to live in them not rent them out and make a profit. At the same time construction companies who are building these large estates should commit to construction of schools and other essentials as part of their proposals when it comes to planning permission.

"No tax to be paid by those earning less than 20k a year."
Stop nicking Reform's policies.

[NWpostie]

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

You're coming across like deranged fanatic, you haven't read my links at all, your response can't be taken seriously.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

How do you propose go about it ? Are you intending to seize private property without compensation ? How will the compensation money be funded ? 80,000 houses won't even touch the sides, not all of these properties are habitable, they're also somebody else's homes not yours to give away,

I said it before, 4.3 million new homes are needed to accomodate everybody today at current levels which is likely to go up even higher by the time they're built, if ever.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

How do you propose to raise their wages ? Who's wages ? How will it be funded ? How do you enforce lower mortgages ? Why do immigrants have to get a foot on the ladder before young British people ?

What if landlords refuse to accept rent capping and withdraw their property from the rental market reducing stocks in the market even further pushing up the rent, what if all landlords decides it's not worth it anymore and withdraw completely from the market ? Houses would still be unaffordable even if they sell it or refuse to sell it because of capital gains tax implications and acute housing shortages.

Or is it a case of more "Starmerism", all style ,no substance ?

[LouBarlow]

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

You're coming across like deranged fanatic, you haven't read my links at all, your response can't be taken seriously.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

How do you propose go about it ? Are you intending to seize private property without compensation ? How will the compensation money be funded ? 80,000 houses won't even touch the sides, not all of these properties are habitable, they're also somebody else's homes not yours to give away,

I said it before, 4.3 million new homes are needed to accomodate everybody today at current levels which is likely to go up even higher by the time they're built, if ever.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

How do you propose to raise their wages ? Who's wages ? How will it be funded ? How do you enforce lower mortgages ? Why do immigrants have to get a foot on the ladder before young British people ?

What if landlords refuse to accept rent capping and withdraw their property from the rental market reducing stocks in the market even further pushing up the rent, what if all landlords decides it's not worth it anymore and withdraw completely from the market ? Houses would still be unaffordable even if they sell it or refuse to sell it because of capital gains tax implications and acute housing shortages.

Or is it a case of more "Starmerism", all style ,no substance ?

The problem you are having is you approach every issue from the wrong angle. It is understandable though - as I said, you have been conditioned by all the rich media, to only think of rich people when it comes to solving problems. “Oh no, what will the poor landlords do?”, oh no what will those poor London-based property investors do?”. They want you to think these problems are unsolvable, because it benefits them. It is working, as I mentioned before, because you continue to think poor people are the problem and not them, which is why you repeat the mantra you are being fed.

The penny will drop for you one day hopefully.

[NWpostie]

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

You're coming across like deranged fanatic, you haven't read my links at all, your response can't be taken seriously.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

How do you propose go about it ? Are you intending to seize private property without compensation ? How will the compensation money be funded ? 80,000 houses won't even touch the sides, not all of these properties are habitable, they're also somebody else's homes not yours to give away,

I said it before, 4.3 million new homes are needed to accomodate everybody today at current levels which is likely to go up even higher by the time they're built, if ever.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

How do you propose to raise their wages ? Who's wages ? How will it be funded ? How do you enforce lower mortgages ? Why do immigrants have to get a foot on the ladder before young British people ?

What if landlords refuse to accept rent capping and withdraw their property from the rental market reducing stocks in the market even further pushing up the rent, what if all landlords decides it's not worth it anymore and withdraw completely from the market ? Houses would still be unaffordable even if they sell it or refuse to sell it because of capital gains tax implications and acute housing shortages.

Or is it a case of more "Starmerism", all style ,no substance ?

The problem you are having is you approach every issue from the wrong angle. It is understandable though - as I said, you have been conditioned by all the rich media, to only think of rich people when it comes to solving problems. “Oh no, what will the poor landlords do?”, oh no what will those poor London-based property investors do?”. They want you to think these problems are unsolvable, because it benefits them. It is working, as I mentioned before, because you continue to think poor people are the problem and not them, which is why you repeat the mantra you are being fed.

The penny will drop for you one day hopefully.

You're not answering the question, you're hiding behind Whataboutry, Corbynisms and Starmerism

[NWpostie]

You're not answering the question, you're hiding behind Whataboutry, Corbynisms and Starmerism

It's all just strawman bullshit that Lou spouts. You know the type, will literally resort to calling people nazis before admitting they might be wrong.

Yep, know the type they get all shouty with nothing to back it up.

They buckle when challenged with details.

[milly]

Blaming immigrants for everything now. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for. You’ve been played for a fool. Conditioned by the media to punch down at those worse off than you rather than up at the people milking the country dry. You have more in common with the poor sods coming across on boats than you do with the wealthy.

You're coming across like deranged fanatic, you haven't read my links at all, your response can't be taken seriously.

As to solutions for homes - here is an idea. Make use of all the vacant properties in cities like London, that are owned but never lived in. Last I read over 80,000 in London alone. There is a start.

How do you propose go about it ? Are you intending to seize private property without compensation ? How will the compensation money be funded ? 80,000 houses won't even touch the sides, not all of these properties are habitable, they're also somebody else's homes not yours to give away,

I said it before, 4.3 million new homes are needed to accomodate everybody today at current levels which is likely to go up even higher by the time they're built, if ever.

Then we can have fixed rent agreements with landlords so rent is affordable. Get rid of no fault evictions. Then we can make homes easier to buy for young people by raising their wages and making mortgages actually affordable. Even immigrants could get a foot on the ladder.

How do you propose to raise their wages ? Who's wages ? How will it be funded ? How do you enforce lower mortgages ? Why do immigrants have to get a foot on the ladder before young British people ?

What if landlords refuse to accept rent capping and withdraw their property from the rental market reducing stocks in the market even further pushing up the rent, what if all landlords decides it's not worth it anymore and withdraw completely from the market ? Houses would still be unaffordable even if they sell it or refuse to sell it because of capital gains tax implications and acute housing shortages.

Or is it a case of more "Starmerism", all style ,no substance ?

The problem you are having is you approach every issue from the wrong angle. It is understandable though - as I said, you have been conditioned by all the rich media, to only think of rich people when it comes to solving problems. “Oh no, what will the poor landlords do?”, oh no what will those poor London-based property investors do?”. They want you to think these problems are unsolvable, because it benefits them. It is working, as I mentioned before, because you continue to think poor people are the problem and not them, which is why you repeat the mantra you are being fed.

The penny will drop for you one day hopefully.

In 2021, 94% of English private landlords were private individuals of which 43% only owned 1 property.
58% viewed buy to let as a pension.
Shame I couldn't find what sectors these investors worked in but I would imagine a high proportion were government workers,comrade.
I have a relative that worked in local government who owns a few properties, I think your perception of who rents out properties is probably misunderstood.

[Tman]

When the basic flaws in his ideas are pointed out he resorts to the tired old "you've been brain-washed etc etc" mantra. Forget that old nonsense, just tell us how the state would "raise wages", take many out of the tax bands, and commandeer properties sufficient to house all those who need homes, etc etc.
Starmerism, pure and simple.