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SkiSunday
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by SkiSunday »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
Have you looked up the rules around UK sporting visas? Nah didn't think so
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1233
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
Yes,because football wasn't possible before mass immigration :crazy:
You're absurd.
Walter sobchak
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Walter sobchak »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
SkiSunday
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by SkiSunday »

Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49
clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
They will never answer your question pal lol. Same old passive aggressive response, promptly ignored when challenged. CWU/RM special :wink:
clashcityrocker
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Location: strummerville

Re: Pay rise %

Post by clashcityrocker »

Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49

You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
Yes that is exactly what I meant.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
SkiSunday
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by SkiSunday »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 18:58
Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49

You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
Yes that is exactly what I meant.
Are you a modern day politician? :left: :chuckle
Walter sobchak
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Walter sobchak »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 18:58
Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49

You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
Yes that is exactly what I meant.
What do multi-millionaire footballers from Italy, Spain, Belgium and The Netherlands have to do with mass immigration?
Walter sobchak
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Walter sobchak »

SkiSunday wrote:
27 May 2025, 18:24
Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49
clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
They will never answer your question pal lol. Same old passive aggressive response, promptly ignored when challenged. CWU/RM special :wink:
It’s all name calling and talking in riddles with them.
clashcityrocker
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Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: Pay rise %

Post by clashcityrocker »

Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 21:30

What do multi-millionaire footballers from Italy, Spain, Belgium and The Netherlands have to do with mass immigration?
Rephrase the question:
What do people coming from other countries to work have to do with immigration?

Those multi-millionaire footballers from Italy, Egypt, Argentina etc etc etc are immigrants are they not?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
mjd24
Posts: 1387
Joined: 11 May 2008, 18:48

Re: Pay rise %

Post by mjd24 »

qwer1010 wrote:
27 May 2025, 16:59
It never fails to amuse me how easily working class people lap up the lies we are told about this subject. The value of your labour is inversely proportional to the supply of labour. To argue that we "need" these people to fill jobs is literally arguing for a paycut for yourself.

It's very simple supply and demand economics, unfortunately we allow our politicians to be lobbied by big corporations to keep the taps of cheap labour wide open and flowing. This takes all your leverage, as a worker, away. There will always be someone to replace you. You are being played, and advocating for it at the same time. If ever the useful idiot term was applicable...
Ill be honest that has actually given me some pause for thought. As i have said before, this is a nuanced subject.
mjd24
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by mjd24 »

Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 21:31
SkiSunday wrote:
27 May 2025, 18:24
Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:49
clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 17:05
I find a lot of people are against immigration until you point at the football team they support.
Then they aren't quite so vocal.
You mean English premier league teams full of non British players?
They will never answer your question pal lol. Same old passive aggressive response, promptly ignored when challenged. CWU/RM special :wink:
It’s all name calling and talking in riddles with them.
Talking in riddles?
milly
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1233
Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

clashcityrocker wrote:
27 May 2025, 21:53
Walter sobchak wrote:
27 May 2025, 21:30

What do multi-millionaire footballers from Italy, Spain, Belgium and The Netherlands have to do with mass immigration?
Rephrase the question:
What do people coming from other countries to work have to do with immigration?

Those multi-millionaire footballers from Italy, Egypt, Argentina etc etc etc are immigrants are they not?
An immigrant is someone who moves to another Country with the intention of living there permanently.
Footballers don't fall under that category.
mjd24
Posts: 1387
Joined: 11 May 2008, 18:48

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Post by mjd24 »

Im not sure thats the definition Millie.
milly
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Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43

Re: Pay rise %

Post by milly »

mjd24 wrote:
27 May 2025, 22:13
Im not sure thats the definition Millie.
It is according to the dictionary, unless of course you know a different definition.
LouBarlow
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Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Pay rise %

Post by LouBarlow »

Walter sobchak wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:44
milly wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:11
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
26 May 2025, 19:10
mjd24 wrote:
26 May 2025, 18:52
431’000.

Small boat arrivals 37’000.

So the “uncontrolled” number is almost insignificant.

Do you understand what im saying? Tories and Labour realise that we need a certain number of immigrants to come in and help with things like our care system and the nhs.

Maybe 431’000 net migration is too high, but the fact its halved vs 2023 doesbt really get mentioned.

Even when ive pointed it out on here, the responses are basically “oh well 431’000 is too much”.

Ok fine, but surely youre happy its dropped by 50%?

And the worrying thing for Starmer is that even if he got net migration to zero (which would be stupid), his critics would not suddenly be satisfied, the next craving would be for deportations.

Im off to watch Clarksons Farm 🙋‍♂️
Some people are only interested in their own agenda's
Nah, people are interested why this Country is going down the toilet.
This 100%

Im 45 years old and I’ve never known a time like what we are currently living through now and this includes the thatcher years of miners strikes, poll tax and privatisation etc as well as the economic downturns and recession of the early 90’s and financial crash 2008 as well as Covid self inflicted economic crisis.

Something is definitely not right with the country and the current direction of travel and more and more people are getting angry about it and demanding change.
The country has a problem. Quick lets blame the immigrants (again) :chuckle

All so predictable.