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mjd24
- Posts: 1387
- Joined: 11 May 2008, 18:48
Re: Pay rise %
But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
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Hyrrokkin
- Posts: 793
- Joined: 24 Nov 2021, 18:17
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Always love the patronising condescending replies when ir comes to immigration debatemjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
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milly
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 1233
- Joined: 14 Sep 2007, 09:43
Re: Pay rise %
Low skilled immigrants cost the the UK taxpayer an average £150k each if they come here at age 25 until pension age and £500k if they live to 80 according to the OBR.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
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Walter sobchak
- Posts: 471
- Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 04:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
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Hyrrokkin
- Posts: 793
- Joined: 24 Nov 2021, 18:17
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
Now now the pro immigrant lovers will call you racist to shut down debate - nothing to see here move along now
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mjd24
- Posts: 1387
- Joined: 11 May 2008, 18:48
Re: Pay rise %
Im sorry if you feel that way but i was just being genuine. Anything to say about my other points?Hyrrokkin wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:36Always love the patronising condescending replies when ir comes to immigration debatemjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
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mjd24
- Posts: 1387
- Joined: 11 May 2008, 18:48
Re: Pay rise %
And that is what we have, bar a relatively small amount of people who arrive by small boat.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
And the net migration figures just released show it HALVED from 2023 to 2024.
HALVED.
Yet hardly anything is mentioned of this by Farage et al because their form of politics thrives on the ability to point at “others” (usually dark skinned immigrants) and suggest they are to blame for your problems.
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claretandblue
- Posts: 838
- Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14
Re: Pay rise %
It's still 350k plus, the Tories wanted to get it down below 100k and failed, we need mass deportations.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:05And that is what we have, bar a relatively small amount of people who arrive by small boat.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
And the net migration figures just released show it HALVED from 2023 to 2024.
HALVED.
Yet hardly anything is mentioned of this by Farage et al because their form of politics thrives on the ability to point at “others” (usually dark skinned immigrants) and suggest they are to blame for your problems.
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Walter sobchak
- Posts: 471
- Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 04:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Halved from what number in 2023?mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:05And that is what we have, bar a relatively small amount of people who arrive by small boat.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
And the net migration figures just released show it HALVED from 2023 to 2024.
HALVED.
Yet hardly anything is mentioned of this by Farage et al because their form of politics thrives on the ability to point at “others” (usually dark skinned immigrants) and suggest they are to blame for your problems.
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grimshaw
- Posts: 13
- Joined: 22 Dec 2020, 18:37
- Gender: Female
Re: Pay rise %
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hero22
- Posts: 556
- Joined: 21 Mar 2016, 19:48
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
Something the do gooders and left wingers simply refuse to acknowledge
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Walter sobchak
- Posts: 471
- Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 04:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
431k to be precise.claretandblue wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:07It's still 350k plus, the Tories wanted to get it down below 100k and failed, we need mass deportations.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:05And that is what we have, bar a relatively small amount of people who arrive by small boat.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
And the net migration figures just released show it HALVED from 2023 to 2024.
HALVED.
Yet hardly anything is mentioned of this by Farage et al because their form of politics thrives on the ability to point at “others” (usually dark skinned immigrants) and suggest they are to blame for your problems.
About the size of Bristol’s population.
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Walter sobchak
- Posts: 471
- Joined: 13 Feb 2014, 04:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
It’s quite bizarre and mind boggling isn’t it?hero22 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:19Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
Something the do gooders and left wingers simply refuse to acknowledge
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Hyrrokkin
- Posts: 793
- Joined: 24 Nov 2021, 18:17
- Gender: Male
Re: Pay rise %
Feel free to not mention the millions of immigrants already in this countrymjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 18:05And that is what we have, bar a relatively small amount of people who arrive by small boat.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:45Every country including the UK needs immigration but we must have controlled immigration and not mass immigration and open borders.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 17:26But to blame immigrants is just an easy answer to a complex question. Its so easy for Farage et al to point their fingers at immagrants when the reality is that there is no strong evidence that immigration is the cause of these problems.Walter sobchak wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 15:58I tell you what is depressing mate and that’s the fact that you can’t get to see a doctor at your local GP surgery or a dental clinic and the ever increasing NHS waiting lists.mjd24 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 12:18Ignoring my questions![]()
Playing the emotional card![]()
Scapegoating foreigners![]()
I wont engage with you anymore Millie.
It saddens me that you speak for a seemingly increasing demographic who have been led to believe that foreign people/“illegals” are to blame for everything wrong in society and that if we could just stop them all would be ok.
Much like if we could just get out of the EU all would be ok.
Now its the ECHR isnt it?
X/Twitter, GB news, Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph, Facebook . . . its really no surprise so many fall for the nonsense but its still deeply depressing.
Add to that the housing crisis and suppression of wages for “lower skilled jobs”
More likely reasons include our ageing population, staff shortages, underfunding, Covid.
Immigrants actually tend to contribute far more than they take and use fewer health services.
Many nhs staff are immigrants themselves, and we would be in a worse situation without them.
And the net migration figures just released show it HALVED from 2023 to 2024.
HALVED.
Yet hardly anything is mentioned of this by Farage et al because their form of politics thrives on the ability to point at “others” (usually dark skinned immigrants) and suggest they are to blame for your problems.
Will be my last mention as i have been part of this thread becoming way off topic
Apologies to the OP and other posties wanting to know about the pay rise !