Van sharing

[Coffee lover]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

[P13]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

No it's not OK, there is no van sharing .

[Coffee lover]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

No it's not OK, there is no van sharing .

That’s what I thought but it’s still happening at our place! Even managers said it’s ok why are they breaking the rules!

[P13]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

No it's not OK, there is no van sharing .

That’s what I thought but it’s still happening at our place! Even managers said it’s ok why are they breaking the rules!

The managers are breaking the rules because they are lazy idiots. You need to report them further up the food chain or report them anonymously to HSE

[2yearpostie]

Its not illegal but should be avoided where possible

3.3 Social distancing in vehicles
Objective: To maintain social distancing wherever possible between individuals when in vehicles:

avoid multiple occupancy vehicles where safe to do so
vehicles should not be shared if possible
if it is not possible to maintain social distancing guidelines inside vehicles (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable), consider additional safety measures
Steps that will usually be needed:

Keeping the number of people in the vehicle to a minimum and as distanced within the vehicle space as possible.

Devising mitigation measures where workers cannot maintain social distancing guidelines to minimise the risk of transmission, including:

– clear signage to outline social distancing measures in place
– single person or contactless refuelling where possible
– using physical screening, provided this does not compromise safety, for example, through reducing visibility
– sitting side-by-side not face-to-face and increasing ventilation where possible.

Using a fixed pairing system if workers have to be in close proximity, for example in a vehicle.

Making sure vehicles are well-ventilated to increase the flow of air, for example, by opening a window.

Ensure regular cleaning of vehicles, in particular between different users.

3.4 Carrying out deliveries or collections
Objective: To maintain social distancing and avoid surface transmission when goods enter and leave the vehicle, especially in high volume situations, for example distribution centres, despatch areas.

Steps that will usually be needed:

Scheduling to limit exposure to large crowds and rush hours where appropriate.

Revising pick-up and drop-off collection points and procedures with signage and marking.

Where possible and safe having single workers load or unload vehicles.

Minimising unnecessary contact at gatehouse security, yard and warehouse. For example, non-contact deliveries where the nature of the product allows for use of electronic pre-booking.

Maximising use of electronic paperwork where possible, and reviewing procedures to enable safe exchange of paper copies where needed, for example, required transport documents.

Enabling drivers to access welfare facilities when required and consistent with other guidance.

Encouraging drivers to stay in their vehicles where this does not compromise their safety and existing safe working practice.


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-saf ... hicles-3-3

[P13]

Its not illegal but should be avoided where possible

3.3 Social distancing in vehicles
Objective: To maintain social distancing wherever possible between individuals when in vehicles:

avoid multiple occupancy vehicles where safe to do so
vehicles should not be shared if possible
if it is not possible to maintain social distancing guidelines inside vehicles (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable), consider additional safety measures
Steps that will usually be needed:

Keeping the number of people in the vehicle to a minimum and as distanced within the vehicle space as possible.

Devising mitigation measures where workers cannot maintain social distancing guidelines to minimise the risk of transmission, including:

– clear signage to outline social distancing measures in place
– single person or contactless refuelling where possible
– using physical screening, provided this does not compromise safety, for example, through reducing visibility
– sitting side-by-side not face-to-face and increasing ventilation where possible.

Using a fixed pairing system if workers have to be in close proximity, for example in a vehicle.

Making sure vehicles are well-ventilated to increase the flow of air, for example, by opening a window.

Ensure regular cleaning of vehicles, in particular between different users.

3.4 Carrying out deliveries or collections
Objective: To maintain social distancing and avoid surface transmission when goods enter and leave the vehicle, especially in high volume situations, for example distribution centres, despatch areas.

Steps that will usually be needed:

Scheduling to limit exposure to large crowds and rush hours where appropriate.

Revising pick-up and drop-off collection points and procedures with signage and marking.

Where possible and safe having single workers load or unload vehicles.

Minimising unnecessary contact at gatehouse security, yard and warehouse. For example, non-contact deliveries where the nature of the product allows for use of electronic pre-booking.

Maximising use of electronic paperwork where possible, and reviewing procedures to enable safe exchange of paper copies where needed, for example, required transport documents.

Enabling drivers to access welfare facilities when required and consistent with other guidance.

Encouraging drivers to stay in their vehicles where this does not compromise their safety and existing safe working practice.


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-saf ... hicles-3-3

Van sharing is banned in royal mail at the moment what part of that do you not understand

[Coffee lover]

Its not illegal but should be avoided where possible

3.3 Social distancing in vehicles
Objective: To maintain social distancing wherever possible between individuals when in vehicles:

avoid multiple occupancy vehicles where safe to do so
vehicles should not be shared if possible
if it is not possible to maintain social distancing guidelines inside vehicles (2m, or 1m with risk mitigation where 2m is not viable), consider additional safety measures
Steps that will usually be needed:

Keeping the number of people in the vehicle to a minimum and as distanced within the vehicle space as possible.

Devising mitigation measures where workers cannot maintain social distancing guidelines to minimise the risk of transmission, including:

– clear signage to outline social distancing measures in place
– single person or contactless refuelling where possible
– using physical screening, provided this does not compromise safety, for example, through reducing visibility
– sitting side-by-side not face-to-face and increasing ventilation where possible.

Using a fixed pairing system if workers have to be in close proximity, for example in a vehicle.

Making sure vehicles are well-ventilated to increase the flow of air, for example, by opening a window.

Ensure regular cleaning of vehicles, in particular between different users.

3.4 Carrying out deliveries or collections
Objective: To maintain social distancing and avoid surface transmission when goods enter and leave the vehicle, especially in high volume situations, for example distribution centres, despatch areas.

Steps that will usually be needed:

Scheduling to limit exposure to large crowds and rush hours where appropriate.

Revising pick-up and drop-off collection points and procedures with signage and marking.

Where possible and safe having single workers load or unload vehicles.

Minimising unnecessary contact at gatehouse security, yard and warehouse. For example, non-contact deliveries where the nature of the product allows for use of electronic pre-booking.

Maximising use of electronic paperwork where possible, and reviewing procedures to enable safe exchange of paper copies where needed, for example, required transport documents.

Enabling drivers to access welfare facilities when required and consistent with other guidance.

Encouraging drivers to stay in their vehicles where this does not compromise their safety and existing safe working practice.


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-saf ... hicles-3-3

Van sharing is banned in royal mail at the moment what part of that do you not understand

Well according to our manager it’s down to local agreements, so is it across the country and if so am I ok to refuse

[Coffee lover]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

No it's not OK, there is no van sharing .

That’s what I thought but it’s still happening at our place! Even managers said it’s ok why are they breaking the rules!

The managers are breaking the rules because they are lazy idiots. You need to report them further up the food chain or report them anonymously to HSE

How do I report them anonymously to HSE?

[P13]

It is not down to local agreements , van sharing is banned in royal mail at the moment . You can report it on the HSE website .

[worktotime]

No van sharing at all Nationally , so it doesnt matter what your dim says as he is only interested in getting mail out the door , as its less of a headache for them to deal with , what does your office rep say ? and i would contact your area rep and inform him of what is going on , and YES you can refuse to jump in a van or whatever they say .

[derricksmyth]

Very true, Van Sharing is an absolute no . Covid is going up in offices for Christ Sake !!

[Chelseablue]

Surely youlle be sacked for sharing a van front or back just now? Or do some doms just let that go . ? Idiots

[iHateD2Ds]

The new variant is highly transmitted .
If the driver has COVID there is a good chance you will get Covid vice versa.

Think for yourself , family and work colleagues. (which sounds like you are).
Keep safe.

[ConeHater]

I noticed a couple shared a van the other day after meeting on delivery and also guys with hct are being dropped off by colleagues driving transit. I’m covering one of these walks next week and manager says it’s much easier to drop me off rather than walking to first delivery point, is this ok as I thought sharing was banned but managers says just wear mask and it’s ok , is that true?

No it's not OK, there is no van sharing .

That’s what I thought but it’s still happening at our place! Even managers said it’s ok why are they breaking the rules!

The managers are breaking the rules because they are lazy idiots. You need to report them further up the food chain or report them anonymously to HSE

How do I report them anonymously to HSE?

HSE has online form to fill in, from their home page type ‘anonymous’ in the search box, and “contact HSE reporting a health and safety issue” will be where you find the form, or there’s a telephone number - 0300 003 1647

[twoloops]

Every Monday my workmate turns up with vile flatulence, he says it’s his wife’s onion stuffing, I have asked him to do it outside van, but he just ignores me, soon as he’s in the van he lifts his leg & let’s out a rasp, it stinks, makes my eyes water what can I do