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Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Here is the safety risk assessment for ‘voluntary’ two in a van.
1. Manager assurance process........
2. Voluntary basis
3. Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
4. Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals are excluded
5. Maximum of two occupants (driver + passenger) in vehicle
6. Vehicle windows to be open when vehicle is occupied and in use.
7. Vehicle air conditioning to be turned off
8. Vehicle air circulation on
9. Mandatory use of face coverings/masks for both while in van...........
19. Time in the shared van to be kept to as short as possible, for example breaks or lunch should not be taken together.
20. In the event of local restrictions/outbreaks the use of shared vans to be reviewed.
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Post by nutcracker »

Erm have they been recommended by Donald Trump.

The RM higher ups are so incompetent they’re actually 2 months behind the governments “everything thing back to normal” spiel that is being proven to be bulls**t even before winter has kicked in
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Post by viking1488 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:Here is the safety risk assessment for ‘voluntary’ two in a van.
1. Manager assurance process........
2. Voluntary basis
3. Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
4. Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals are excluded
5. Maximum of two occupants (driver + passenger) in vehicle
6. Vehicle windows to be open when vehicle is occupied and in use.
7. Vehicle air conditioning to be turned off
8. Vehicle air circulation on
9. Mandatory use of face coverings/masks for both while in van...........
19. Time in the shared van to be kept to as short as possible, for example breaks or lunch should not be taken together.
20. In the event of local restrictions/outbreaks the use of shared vans to be reviewed.
rules the government make rules not rm this is total bullshit ..... you cant go in a car outside your family/close family ... you cant visit family .... pubs etc are shutting.... cases are rising all over uk and rm want you to share a van they can stick there rules where the sun dont shine irresponsible reckless behavior from rm :mad
twoloops
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Post by twoloops »

Woody Guthrie wrote: Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
Asked my Dom, manager & union reps, not a Scooby Do what fixed pairing pods are :crazy:
Grumpyoldmailman
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Post by Grumpyoldmailman »

twoloops wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote: Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
Asked my Dom, manager & union reps, not a Scooby Do what fixed pairing pods are :crazy:
Same duty all week with same partner and same rest day also.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

Grumpyoldmailman wrote:
Same duty all week with same partner and same rest day also.
Unless they are offering a 6 day week with guaranteed overtime as an incentive to agree.

Duty holders are going to be moved to accommodate this. Rest day covers as well.
Our staffing is crap at the best of times. This will cause management more problems than it will solve.
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Post by Pidleypoo »

Woody Guthrie wrote:Here is the safety risk assessment for ‘voluntary’ two in a van.
1. Manager assurance process........
2. Voluntary basis
3. Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
4. Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals are excluded
5. Maximum of two occupants (driver + passenger) in vehicle
6. Vehicle windows to be open when vehicle is occupied and in use.
7. Vehicle air conditioning to be turned off
8. Vehicle air circulation on
9. Mandatory use of face coverings/masks for both while in van...........
19. Time in the shared van to be kept to as short as possible, for example breaks or lunch should not be taken together.
20. In the event of local restrictions/outbreaks the use of shared vans to be reviewed.

I know this probably sounds stupid but there are some saying in my unit that it’s only voluntary for two weeks then it becomes mandatory.

As someone who’s clinically vulnerable, I’ll be having to use the health and safety act if true.
deltaforce
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Post by deltaforce »

Pidleypoo wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:Here is the safety risk assessment for ‘voluntary’ two in a van.
1. Manager assurance process........
2. Voluntary basis
3. Use of fixed pairings/pods to reduce exposure
4. Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals are excluded
5. Maximum of two occupants (driver + passenger) in vehicle
6. Vehicle windows to be open when vehicle is occupied and in use.
7. Vehicle air conditioning to be turned off
8. Vehicle air circulation on
9. Mandatory use of face coverings/masks for both while in van...........
19. Time in the shared van to be kept to as short as possible, for example breaks or lunch should not be taken together.
20. In the event of local restrictions/outbreaks the use of shared vans to be reviewed.

I know this probably sounds stupid but there are some saying in my unit that it’s only voluntary for two weeks then it becomes mandatory.

As someone who’s clinically vulnerable, I’ll be having to use the health and safety act if true.
Purely office talk. Voluntary basis only.
swintontillidie
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Post by swintontillidie »

If you dont agree to share they will find someone who will and you will become a leave reserve and end up with HCT duty ?
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

How can you be a leave reserve and have a HCT duty?

If they make you a reserve then it’s purely to put pressure on you as logistically it’s even bigger a problem being a reserve who doesn’t van share for them
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
twoloops
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Post by twoloops »

Told today anyone not up for van sharing will be coming in later when the van returns. Going out on foot or bikes is impracticable to RM. Seems to work when it suits?
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

What use is coming in later for a van to be returned for non drivers?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Chelseablue
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Post by Chelseablue »

Windows to be left open in vans thatl be fantastic in winter ! Masks to be worn in vans , how can you police that esp the runners and the idiots?
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Post by wallop »

"7. Vehicle air conditioning to be turned off"

Anyone got AC in a van?
wolves4767
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Post by wolves4767 »

I'm type 2 and don't want to share a van at the moment . my Dom as told me today that if I choose not to van share & he can find someone that will he will kick me off my job is this right ? and can they change your start times to pm or is this voluntary ?