New meaning of "failing a walk"

Post by **onejontwo** » 03 Oct 2020, 20:09

I don't know if this is due to the coronavirus, but we were recently told that if a walk is prepped and fails to go out then this constitutes a "Failure", whereas if a walk Isn't prepped and the mail is just left on the frame within the sequenced boxes then this is regarded as a Non-failure!! In my view if I came in the following day and saw an empty frame with 2 days mail to prep I would consider this a bigger failure than walking into a prepped frame! Crazy!!

yubin282 · Post by **yubin282** » 04 Oct 2020, 09:39

onejontwo wrote:I don't know if this is due to the coronavirus, but we were recently told that if a walk is prepped and fails to go out then this constitutes a "Failure", whereas if a walk Isn't prepped and the mail is just left on the frame within the sequenced boxes then this is regarded as a Non-failure!! In my view if I came in the following day and saw an empty frame with 2 days mail to prep I would consider this a bigger failure than walking into a prepped frame! Crazy!!

It's like when 'LAPSING' became 'RESOURCE TO WORKLOAD'.

Now 'FAILURE' becomes 'NON-FAILURE'

All RM jargon to make sure someone gets shafted.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 04 Oct 2020, 12:28

There are two kinds of failure, a Delivery failure and a Workplan failure but they're both failures and both have to be reported via the DDOR.

Subman · Post by **Subman** » 04 Oct 2020, 15:23

If the mail isnt prepped into the frame then it's not a USO failure, that's the important issue for RM and management but to me if the mail is in the office and customers don't get their mail, it's a failure.

As for reporting failed mail , it used to be the practice that a manager would want you to quantify the failed items in terms of letters , flats and packets. A practice that is no longer required as the manager has years of experience and a super power which means he can estimate the failed mail accurately, even when he hasn't seen the mail or been to the office.

Mr Rush · Post by **Mr Rush** » 04 Oct 2020, 17:37

This has been happening with walks with no day off cover for months here. I figured it was a resourcing thing: why waste time prepping a walk that'll still be there tomorrow. Of course it's a practice meant to meant to get around certain technical definitions. Like lapsing beyond spec and three quarters of someone's walk never actually gets done by the designated duties. That's not a failure, just a 'partial failure'!

Post by **arsenalbob** » 04 Oct 2020, 18:37

Seven out of eight walks in one of our aisles didn’t go out yesterday. No senior manager on site. The job has well and truly gone to the dogs

1617mel · Post by **1617mel** » 05 Oct 2020, 05:29

in our office priority is parcels, all parcels tracked ,24,48,etc.so how busy are your offices, in ours there is normally no chance of clearing everyday,so one
full walk goes out, and all packets businesss mail from the other walk goes. some letters do remain in the remaining frame, this is reversed the day after and so on, we still finish LATER THAN SCHEDULED MOST DAYS, THERE IS NO TIME FOR ALL THE COMPLETE WALKS TO GO OUT, ARE WE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » 05 Oct 2020, 23:07

Our office is brilliant we clear all mail, D2D and parcels every day. No failures, even when we bring back half the mail as told to do so by the manager and chuck it back in the frame. Fraud on a grand scale. And all down to the virus apparently.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 05 Oct 2020, 23:25

Its strange that managers seem to be encouraging walks to fail these days

There are a few guys wanting to work their day off only to be told that there wasn't anything going and yet when they came back on their day off they found 2 days worth of mail and packets!!

Managers simply said deliver all the tracked items and whatever you can mail wise.

All so they can save on a day's overtime!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 10 Oct 2020, 04:10

Woody Guthrie wrote:There are two kinds of failure, a Delivery failure and a Workplan failure but they're both failures and both have to be reported via the DDOR.

No chance of that happing as it would be a management failure they kind of like to blame someone else for their own failures!

PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 10 Oct 2020, 20:18

k979aaa wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:There are two kinds of failure, a Delivery failure and a Workplan failure but they're both failures and both have to be reported via the DDOR.
No chance of that happing as it would be a management failure they kind of like to blame someone else for their own failures!

Woody can't read your comment, k979aaa, because he's put you on his ignore list, remember?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 10 Oct 2020, 21:01

PostmanBitesDog wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:There are two kinds of failure, a Delivery failure and a Workplan failure but they're both failures and both have to be reported via the DDOR.
No chance of that happing as it would be a management failure they kind of like to blame someone else for their own failures!
Woody can't read your comment, k979aaa, because he's put you on his ignore list, remember?

What a shame still life goes on.