Masks for indoor work

[ddtc]

We are all going to die at some time it is what you do after your born and before you die that counts at present that is not very much!

Wow are you serious? So your willing to live life as normal and passing on covid to someone yourself if you happen to have it and the other person gets no choice at all? Because we all die sometime? Unbelievable. Do you have any kids, wife, a mother, father, granparents etc? You best tell them to stay out of your way because you don't give a crap about their lives as we all die anyway.

[k979aaa]

We are all going to die at some time it is what you do after your born and before you die that counts at present that is not very much!

Wow are you serious? So your willing to live life as normal and passing on covid to someone yourself if you happen to have it and the other person gets no choice at all? Because we all die sometime? Unbelievable. Do you have any kids, wife, a mother, father, granparents etc? You best tell them to stay out of your way because you don't give a crap about their lives as we all die anyway.

I can see all the people dead in the street from this virus do I have to be an unpaid undertaker for them all?

[ddtc]

you are comical. Seriously I'd vote for you to run this country if you ever decide to

[k979aaa]

you are comical. Seriously I'd vote for you to run this country if you ever decide to

The position is full.

[k979aaa]

Does anyone know the annual deaths of the last year in 2019?

[ddtc]

you are comical. Seriously I'd vote for you to run this country if you ever decide to

The position is full.

Nah theres always room for people like you

[Caesar]

A year on and my initial thought haven't changed. I still believe that we are dealing with something that is causing a lot of deaths but I still don't believe that we know what it is or how to treat it.
We can only speculate on the number of possible deaths without the imposed restrictions in place. Most will expect the number to be higher but it could be less when you consider that many vulnerable people would have put of seeking medical help for various reasons, sometimes being too scared to go to doctors. My local doctors actually closed due staff isolating.
Lockdown hasn't really impacted me because I rarely leave the house unless going to work and I do try to follow social distancing rules but that is mainly for other people's fears and not my own.

[milly]

I don't claim to be an expert but unlike I don't believe everything that the media says about Covid.
With regards to masks we have had more cases of Coronavirus at work since it was mandatory to wear masks, this is only anecdotal I know but it's not unexpected.
Lockdowns are a religion to people like you, there is always an excuse why they don't work, usually we locked down too late or it wasn't long enough or tough enough or selfish people weren't observing the lockdown.

You can keep saying things like so on so don't work or have had no use, but we will never know the full extent of what it would of been like without these rules in place. We all know the media is full of bs but what about what the nurses, doctors, care workers experience? Are you going to disregard what they know and have seen since this pandemic started?

I will never understand how saying that older people are at most risk of dying is an acceptable statement for us to live as normal. All lives matter no matter what the age, and some may die in lower age categories or healthy people, so why gamble? Are you going to accept responsibility for killing someone, a family member or friend because you wanted to live as normal? You try saying that to people who have lost their loved ones, covid or not.

Some of you really are in the wrong profession and obviously underpaid as a postman. Obviously what you need to do now is to copy and paste information from numerous sources online that back your thinking and then forward it on to the scientists and governments so they know what they need to do to bring this to an end.

This may sound harsh but all lives aren't equal, the life of an elderly dementia sufferer isn't equal to a Parent with dependents who has a surivable Cancer with prompt diagnosis and treatment.
Your arguments are infantile and symptomatic of today's society where nothing bad can happen ever.
I take it although you say all lives matter you are quite happy for Big Pharma to test out their experimental Vaccines on the elderly first.

[Pumpernickel]

So if the current ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’ strategy is still in place 9 MONTHS later, how is that proof that lockdowns work???

Because when the lockdowns were adhered to (the latest one not so much), the curve was flattened. It could only ever buy a few weeks though (in spite of the government saying it would solve everything).

As said previously, we needed a competent test and trace reigeme (and welfare scheme) before the end of the first lockdown so individuals would then be isolating instead of further lockdowns (this is what happened in countries that dealt with the virus well AND had better economic outcomes than our western nations), but the government cocked that right up so the alternative was more lockdowns. Unfortunately people in general are now sick to the back teeth of lockdowns, and aware that there is virtually no enforcement so they aren't adhered to.

The less compliance there is in anything (mask wearing, isolation, lockdown, whatever) the less effective it can be. People won't wear masks because they're snowflakes. People won't isolate because that pushes them into debt. People now ignore lockdown because they're sick of it.

[k979aaa]

A year on and my initial thought haven't changed. I still believe that we are dealing with something that is causing a lot of deaths but I still don't believe that we know what it is or how to treat it.
We can only speculate on the number of possible deaths without the imposed restrictions in place. Most will expect the number to be higher but it could be less when you consider that many vulnerable people would have put of seeking medical help for various reasons, sometimes being too scared to go to doctors. My local doctors actually closed due staff isolating.
Lockdown hasn't really impacted me because I rarely leave the house unless going to work and I do try to follow social distancing rules but that is mainly for other people's fears and not my own.

Well lots of people were not given treatment for cancer a preventable illness stokes heart attacks and suicide all caused by what you may ask!

[k979aaa]

So if the current ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’ strategy is still in place 9 MONTHS later, how is that proof that lockdowns work???

Because when the lockdowns were adhered to (the latest one not so much), the curve was flattened. It could only ever buy a few weeks though (in spite of the government saying it would solve everything).

As said previously, we needed a competent test and trace reigeme (and welfare scheme) before the end of the first lockdown so individuals would then be isolating instead of further lockdowns (this is what happened in countries that dealt with the virus well AND had better economic outcomes than our western nations), but the government cocked that right up so the alternative was more lockdowns. Unfortunately people in general are now sick to the back teeth of lockdowns, and aware that there is virtually no enforcement so they aren't adhered to.

The less compliance there is in anything (mask wearing, isolation, lockdown, whatever) the less effective it can be. People won't wear masks because they're snowflakes. People won't isolate because that pushes them into debt. People now ignore lockdown because they're sick of it.

The case in point was it was not a lockdown of people but of business as people congregated and schools were open it was why the parts of the south east were hit by the virus. I still believe their is a virus and it will kill some people before their time and we should prevent that but at the expense of treatable cancers and other illness and the wider economy. This is peoples lives for god sake not a bloody holiday on furlough most people are employed by small businesses if the business goes bust they have no job furlough or chance of income!

[ddtc]

This may sound harsh but all lives aren't equal, the life of an elderly dementia sufferer isn't equal to a Parent with dependents who has a surivable Cancer with prompt diagnosis and treatment.
Your arguments are infantile and symptomatic of today's society where nothing bad can happen ever.
I take it although you say all lives matter you are quite happy for Big Pharma to test out their experimental Vaccines on the elderly first.

Yep you found me out, I have vast amount of shares in all these big pharma groups and also tin foil companies like you purchase in bulk so keep on going. I'm set for life thanks to this pandemic

I'm sure if we lived life as normal the nhs would of coped fine and still be able to work as normal and it wouldn't be as bad as it is now. In no way would they of had to cancel more and more apppointments and dragged on cancelling more and more as the days go by.

[k979aaa]

This may sound harsh but all lives aren't equal, the life of an elderly dementia sufferer isn't equal to a Parent with dependents who has a surivable Cancer with prompt diagnosis and treatment.
Your arguments are infantile and symptomatic of today's society where nothing bad can happen ever.
I take it although you say all lives matter you are quite happy for Big Pharma to test out their experimental Vaccines on the elderly first.

Yep you found me out, I have vast amount of shares in all these big pharma groups and also tin foil companies like you purchase in bulk so keep on going. I'm set for life thanks to this pandemic

I'm sure if we lived life as normal the nhs would of coped fine and still be able to work as normal and it wouldn't be as bad as it is now. In no way would they of had to cancel more and more apppointments and dragged on cancelling more and more as the days go by.

Basically they choose who will live and die because what IF

[ddtc]

Basically they choose who will live and die because what IF

And your suggestions on living as normal is exactly the same. So its ok for you to gamble with other peoples lives?

[milly]

Basically they choose who will live and die because what IF

And your suggestions on living as normal is exactly the same. So its ok for you to gamble with other peoples lives?

Remember the Covid hysteria is killing people too.