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was it not quoted on here in the agreement no change to delivery spans
well after starting revision process guess what comes up
increasing delivery spans will be up to staff to decide
how long can you be asked to go out on foot delivery for???
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There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.

Obviously if your office wants 4 day weeks you're going to have to fill your day with meaningful work and on a 9hr+ day that's probably going to mean 6hr+ deliveries.

If you stick to a basic 5 day on a 37hr week there's a limit to what you can achieve with a 7hr 24 minute day minus break minus travelling time minus indoor work.
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If you have mostly part timers (25/30 hr contracts ) then no longer than 5 hrs, if you have mostly full time (35hr+ contracts) then 6 hrs.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
20 Mar 2021, 21:58
There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.

Obviously if your office wants 4 day weeks you're going to have to fill your day with meaningful work and on a 9hr+ day that's probably going to mean 6hr+ deliveries.

Part of that doesn't make sense as what happens to the part timers. Impossible to have a 6hr span on a 6hr a day (30 hr's per week) partimer.
What no 4 day week whallers are having part timers?
I very much doubt London where the majority of 4 day weeks are, are going to have 6+hr deliveries.
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POSTMAN wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 11:23
Woody Guthrie wrote:
20 Mar 2021, 21:58
There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.

Obviously if your office wants 4 day weeks you're going to have to fill your day with meaningful work and on a 9hr+ day that's probably going to mean 6hr+ deliveries.

Part of that doesn't make sense as what happens to the part timers. Impossible to have a 6hr span on a 6hr a day (30 hr's per week) partimer.
What no 4 day week whallers are having part timers?
I very much doubt London where the majority of 4 day weeks are, are going to have 6+hr deliveries.
Stop skim reading my posts.

There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.
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As far as London's concerned as I said you have to fill your day with meaningful work .
If you can find enough indoor work to do that fair enough it will limit what you can do outdoors but it will probably mean more part-time jobs.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 11:40
POSTMAN wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 11:23
Woody Guthrie wrote:
20 Mar 2021, 21:58
There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.

Obviously if your office wants 4 day weeks you're going to have to fill your day with meaningful work and on a 9hr+ day that's probably going to mean 6hr+ deliveries.

Part of that doesn't make sense as what happens to the part timers. Impossible to have a 6hr span on a 6hr a day (30 hr's per week) partimer.
What no 4 day week whallers are having part timers?
I very much doubt London where the majority of 4 day weeks are, are going to have 6+hr deliveries.
Stop skim reading my posts.

There is no limit to the delivery span other than the avaliable hours in your attendance patterns.
Have you just told me off!
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 11:44
As far as London's concerned as I said you have to fill your day with meaningful work .
If you can find enough indoor work to do that fair enough it will limit what you can do outdoors but it will probably mean more part-time jobs.
But you're scare mongering a liddle bit, no part timer is going to be on a 6+hr delivery.......in an office with 6+hr delivery.
My statement to you was it didn't make sense. Skimmed or not.
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Impossible to have a 6hr span on a 6hr a day (30 hr's per week) partimer
Not if they're on a 4 day week..
Then they wouldn't be a 6hr day.. they would be on a 7.30 hr day.
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Remember when there was a big hoohah about 5hr deliveries? We’re now talking about 6hr spans and no one bats an eye????
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Because people are suggesting without even reading the guidelines ! It is simply fake news , no office has to agree 6 hour spans.

The guidelines will be out on Tuesday so not long to wait. On a 37 hour week with 4 hours 20 as meal relief , how does a 6 hour delivery span work when you have to still prep , IPS , collect reg , fill out redirections and travel to and from delivery ?
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Martin Walsh wrote:
21 Mar 2021, 20:07
On a 37 hour week with 4 hours 20 as meal relief
Nope, unless there's a local agreement for a 37hr week it's 3hrs on a 6 day week, 3hrs 20 on a 5 day week, 2hrs 30 on a 4 day week and 3hrs on a 3 day week

You'd have to be doing more than 37hrs a week to be able to get 4hr 20 meal relief
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Apologies 3 hours 20.
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Because people are suggesting without even reading the guidelines ! It is simply fake news , no office has to agree 6 hour spans.
No office has to agree anything Martin but what you agree is very much down to what you've been offered and what are the costs for refusing.

No office had to agree to 5hr deliveries and I doubt many members wanted them but they're not fake news they are very real already.
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and the executive know this will come through LOCAL agreements
fit up springs to mind
pay rise should never have been linked to terms and conditions backtracked on that
more to come im afraid
even cwu are looking after themselves from top to bottom
guess who are at the bottom :nana :nana :nana