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scoobydo79
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What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
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scoobydo79 wrote:What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
Terry is currently asking really nicely can we have 5 hour duty spans not 6. We should have some clarification by next June sometime. Stick by your union. You are the union. This union will get the best deal for our members. Please keep paying your subs so Dave and terry can have their little cosy meetings with higher management while picking up 10k a month.
God I’m bitter lol
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I can't see any revisions being worked on or implemented before the New Year
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toonshola wrote:
scoobydo79 wrote:What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
Terry is currently asking really nicely can we have 5 hour duty spans not 6. We should have some clarification by next June sometime. Stick by your union. You are the union. This union will get the best deal for our members. Please keep paying your subs so Dave and terry can have their little cosy meetings with higher management while picking up 10k a month.
God I’m bitter lol
We already have 5 hour duty spans in rurals and have done for ages, get with the times :D
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Post by postieblueshirt »

TheoF95 wrote:
toonshola wrote:
scoobydo79 wrote:What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
Terry is currently asking really nicely can we have 5 hour duty spans not 6. We should have some clarification by next June sometime. Stick by your union. You are the union. This union will get the best deal for our members. Please keep paying your subs so Dave and terry can have their little cosy meetings with higher management while picking up 10k a month.
God I’m bitter lol
We already have 5 hour duty spans in rurals and have done for ages, get with the times :D
Yeah and I bet they try to take your travelling time away from your rural in the next revision.
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Post by enzio1272 »

I would imagine doing a rural is not quite the same as ding a walk for 5 hours though.
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toonshola wrote:
scoobydo79 wrote:What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
Terry is currently asking really nicely can we have 5 hour duty spans not 6. We should have some clarification by next June sometime. Stick by your union. You are the union. This union will get the best deal for our members. Please keep paying your subs so Dave and terry can have their little cosy meetings with higher management while picking up 10k a month.
God I’m bitter lol
bitter....but very honest
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The lesser-spotted Pullinger goes into hibernation from September when sensing danger or stressed.
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SpacePhoenix wrote:I can't see any revisions being worked on or implemented before the New Year
I’m told they are. Everyone will be day off.No weeks off at all and numerous walks absorbed to make less but longer deliveries.
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Post by postslippete »

toonshola wrote:
11 Nov 2020, 20:05
scoobydo79 wrote:What’s the latest on these? Are they still working on them? Any near finished?
Terry is currently asking really nicely can we have 5 hour duty spans not 6. We should have some clarification by next June sometime. Stick by your union. You are the union. This union will get the best deal for our members. Please keep paying your subs so Dave and terry can have their little cosy meetings with higher management while picking up 10k a month.
God I’m bitter lol
I wouldn't be bitter until we find out exactly what they've negotiated. I know the CWU will do everything to avoid another strike ballot but at what cost??

We know Royal Mails strategy, they will claim that mail's dropped off a cliff; that the profits are down due to covid and that they need to modernize in order to maintain efficiency blah blah
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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scoobydo79 wrote:
13 Nov 2020, 16:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:I can't see any revisions being worked on or implemented before the New Year
I’m told they are. Everyone will be day off.No weeks off at all and numerous walks absorbed to make less but longer deliveries.
We've been told our revision is complete and will be implemented in the new year. Goodness knows how as they can't know how much covid regulations will impact on duties and delivery methods next year.

While I'm aware that both union and RM seem wedded to everyone being on a 5 day week, I'd have thought implementing that would be slightly tricky given that quite a few people in hour office just work 20 or 24 hours a week, which won't be long enough to complete 25 hours of 'just delivery' if there's a 5 hour delivery span - so a 5.5 hour delivery span would be even more problematic.

And that also takes no account of rotas designed around disabilities or family friendly working, which are binding.
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Post by Manboat »

5 day week, dsa mail allowed to be left for 5 days so delivered all together once a week pretty much, parcels bigger than a shoebox taken off us, massive reduction in staff coming, hope I’m wrong 😔
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Post by Martin Walsh »

Manboat the Mail which will be left up to 4 days is a new economy mail product and not DSA. This new product will not be part of the USO.

It is part of Royal Mail’s strategy of warm calling ie only going to deliver D2D on the basis of having Mail for that addresss.
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Post by Ren Hoëk »

"It is part of Royal Mail’s strategy of warm calling ie only going to deliver D2D on the basis of having Mail for that addresss."

Our office has always done that. Always. Innovating stuff. Does the CWU and RM management have any idea of what goes on inside a DO...
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Ren Hoëk wrote:
19 Nov 2020, 17:15
Does the CWU and RM management have any idea of what goes on inside a DO...
An evidence-based approach to answering that question would strongly indicate that the answer is 'not much' and 'almost no' respectively. It might help a teensy bit if middle and high level officials/managers actually got about amongst workers on the shop floor on a regular basis ('regular' not meaning once every three years) and saw for themselves how things actually worked.