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Britain’s Royal Mail (RMG.L) has proposed a three-year pay deal to the Communication Workers Union (CWU) and wants to have detailed talks with its largest union, the company said on Twitter on Friday.

The company, which was dogged by the threat of strike action over the Christmas period, had said on Thursday that the CWU was preparing another strike ballot.

“We have today put forward a proposal to CWU, including a three-year pay deal,” Royal Mail said in Friday’s tweet.

"We want to get into detailed talks about our proposal and what we want from the union for our business," said here the company, which employs about 143,000 people in Britain.

Royal Mail warned on Thursday that it faced a challenging year ahead and could face a loss in its British business because of labor tensions and shrinking letter volumes.

The company’s German chief executive, Rico Back, has said it was vital that he proceeds with a plan to transform the British business into a sustainably profitable operation by 2024.

Royal Mail’s tweet included a video with more details about its proposal to the CWU, including modern tools and better equipment, as well as fairer and more manageable routes.

The company said it would not be able to reduce the working week by an hour, saying every hour reduced would cost the former postal monopoly 100 million pounds ($129 million).

“We want to enter talks with CWU and reach an agreement”, Shane O’Riordain, managing director of regulation and public affairs at Royal Mail, said in an email statement.

The CWU rebuffed Royal Mail’s proposal on Twitter.

"Rather than try and negotiate with our members via actors and actresses it would be great if you stopped moving ahead with unagreed changes and sat down seriously with the union," it tweeted
Last May, the chief executive pledged to invest 1.8 billion pounds in a five-year turnaround plan to refashion Royal Mail into an international parcel-led business that can profit from a future dominated by e-commerce.

The CWU did not immediately respond to a request for additional comments.
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Rico's Deal for three years,
I swear by God this holy oath, that I want to offer unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German Reich and people, Rico Back, the commander-in-chief of the Royalmail, and be prepared as a brave postie to risk my life for this oath at any time.
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POSTMAN wrote:

She is a comedy creator according to her Twitter feed.. Seems about for RM! :left:
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FAB wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:

She is a comedy creator according to her Twitter feed.. Seems about for RM! :left:
When even your own managers will not present a policy or dictat sad ending for a communications company!
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The actual pay rises implemented;

April 2017 would normally be the point for the pay review.
In May 2018 the 5% pay increase was awarded & backdated to October 2017.
In October 2018 the first hour was implemented which was effectively a 2.6% increase to the hourly rate.
In April 2019 the 2% pay increase was awarded.

So my calculation is a 9.6% increase over 3 years
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rogersh wrote:The actual pay rises implemented;

April 2017 would normally be the point for the pay review.
In May 2018 the 5% pay increase was awarded & backdated to October 2017.
In October 2018 the first hour was implemented which was effectively a 2.6% increase to the hourly rate.
In April 2019 the 2% pay increase was awarded.

So my calculation is a 9.6% increase over 3 years
But it is they Royalmail who have abrogated the last pay deal this is now not a pay dispute but one of trust confidence and the future for all of us who are not sat in a heated swimming pool in Switzerland! Things have moved on how can we trust them when they use actors and actresses paid people to deceive us all! Why do we need this culture of deceit and greed if productivity was the cause of the abrogation of the last agreement why has the remuneration increased by more than inflation for the whole board of Royal Mail?
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3 year pay deal ? = will we get a vote on that? Not a chance, we have to follow the 4 pillars and this obsession with the Union leadership on a 35 hour week etc etc for which in my office... no-one is asking for !
Actually we would like a pay rise each year negotiated in time for the beginning of April and for some basics to be provided.... Enough (working) toilets for us all and some decent lighting would be a start. Employing enough cleaners to do some cleaning, rather than just sweeping up and emptying bins would be a luxury. B&H needs sorting too.

Union needs to start seeing the real world, the job and industry has changed ( and will undergo more changes ). If you can't even help us fight for some basics, you're not worth the millions paid in subs each year.

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JKSmudge wrote:3 year pay deal ? = will we get a vote on that? Not a chance, we have to follow the 4 pillars and this obsession with the Union leadership on a 35 hour week etc etc for which in my office... no-one is asking for !
Actually we would like a pay rise each year negotiated in time for the beginning of April and for some basics to be provided.... Enough (working) toilets for us all and some decent lighting would be a start. Employing enough cleaners to do some cleaning, rather than just sweeping up and emptying bins would be a luxury. B&H needs sorting too.

Union needs to start seeing the real world, the job and industry has changed ( and will undergo more changes ). If you can't even help us fight for some basics, you're not worth the millions paid in subs each year.

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No rabid response here agree with all you say :thumbup
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Spot on. Like it or not, times change and RM needs to adapt to survive, otherwise will go the same way as British Leyland and the miners, while the CWU is in danger in coming across as a bunch of dinosaurs. As for the SWW (which no one in my office seems to care about) if I've got a choice of a payrise or a SWW, I will take the payrise, a SWW won't pay the bills
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Yip agree with most as people have stated above,
But the sww is crucial walks are going to get a lot longer etc fatigue & Wear and tear on your body that why the sww is mega important,
Plus were going to lose a lot of jobs to automation and the union got a great deal in the four pillars so we benefit from losing jobs to automation hence the sww
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It's a strange message they've putting out.

We can't afford the SWW.
We can afford a 3 year pay deal.

Assuming the pay deal is on or around inflation the pay deal will cost a great deal more than the SWW so what they're really saying is that they either can't afford both and believe that the members would rather have a pay rise or they're taking it off the table now to trade it later in the negotiations.

What members have to also remember is that the SWW is more about aligning the reduction in indoor work with work hours so without it deliveries will get longer and full-time opportunities will decrease. That's a choice members might have to make especially combined with parcel separation.
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Royalmail just want to screw us over ..


Read an article on italian postal service same set up as us,
But there CEO have made the business a great success got the workers on board from 5 day week to 7 days and loads of new products.

Our CEO are on another planet
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I take it new full time contracts will be back to 38 hours now rather than 35.
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Still think pay deal isnt a pay rise.