What will a Strike achieve?

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » 04 Mar 2020, 18:17

Can someone enlighten me on what a strike will achieve at this time of year . My thoughts are most customers will not even realise we’re on strike as most address only receive letters 2 or 3 days a week , and any business will simply use another courier for their packets needs , there are many to chose from nowadays all just a click away on the internet . Also I’m sure RM have a plan , lockdown all entry of letters into the system during notice period, then have the casual parcel drivers they are advertising for deliver the most important tracked packets keeping those customers happy.

chickenwittle · Post by **chickenwittle** » 04 Mar 2020, 18:41

Scrumpy wrote:Can someone enlighten me on what a strike will achieve at this time of year . My thoughts are most customers will not even realise we’re on strike as most address only receive letters 2 or 3 days a week , and any business will simply use another courier for their packets needs , there are many to chose from nowadays all just a click away on the internet . Also I’m sure RM have a plan , lockdown all entry of letters into the system during notice period, then have the casual parcel drivers they are advertising for deliver the most important tracked packets keeping those customers happy.

So what do you suggest we do ? Bend over and accept all royal mails changes ?

richietns · Post by **richietns** » 04 Mar 2020, 18:47

Your oversimplifying,were the only people who deliver letters so the whole country doesnt get any letters for as long as the strikes last,and royalmail wont want to lose the parcel business to other couriers so they keep saying.

ted_e_bear · Post by **ted_e_bear** » 04 Mar 2020, 18:51

Interesting post in that you've answered your own question in the post,the threat of strike action could possibly prompt parcel sending customers to go elsewhere which is obviously not what RM want.
As far as the people who only receive a few letters a week not noticing that we're on strike, RM don't care as that's the business that they don't want.

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 04 Mar 2020, 18:52

Scrumpy wrote:Can someone enlighten me on what a strike will achieve at this time of year . My thoughts are most customers will not even realise we’re on strike as most address only receive letters 2 or 3 days a week , and any business will simply use another courier for their packets needs , there are many to chose from nowadays all just a click away on the internet . Also I’m sure RM have a plan , lockdown all entry of letters into the system during notice period, then have the casual parcel drivers they are advertising for deliver the most important tracked packets keeping those customers happy.

Oh they'll know about it when it hits the mainstream media. You're contradicting yourself Scrumpy, "any business will simply use another courier", but "have casual parcel drivers deliver the most important tracked packets".

I say again, the point isn't to strike, (most people wouldn't want to, but would do if necessary). It's to get both parties to come to a fair and amicable solution.

But if it does come to a strike, this WILL hurt Royal Mail. Bad publicity, falling share price, loss of business etc.

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 04 Mar 2020, 19:07

Is scrumpy Rico lol

richietns · Post by **richietns** » 04 Mar 2020, 19:08

Yes they don't want the letters side but they still have to be delivered unless Ofcom change the uso in a week.

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » 04 Mar 2020, 19:21

richietns wrote:Yes they don't want the letters side but they still have to be delivered unless Ofcom change the uso in a week.

I feel the Union have lost focus and are chomping at the bit to strike to have the last say as the high court ruling truly damaged the Union reputation. I will strike as fortunate to be able to take the loss in earnings , it will be nice especially if over Easter as I couldn’t get the time off this year

richietns · Post by **richietns** » 04 Mar 2020, 19:35

The union have mucked it up a bit but there on the workers side,just look at the other delivery companys with no union they have no say what so ever and get walked all over.sorry about the pun.

Post by **rambo1** » 05 Mar 2020, 20:55

Scrumpy wrote:Can someone enlighten me on what a strike will achieve at this time of year . My thoughts are most customers will not even realise we’re on strike as most address only receive letters 2 or 3 days a week , and any business will simply use another courier for their packets needs , there are many to chose from nowadays all just a click away on the internet . Also I’m sure RM have a plan , lockdown all entry of letters into the system during notice period, then have the casual parcel drivers they are advertising for deliver the most important tracked packets keeping those customers happy.

Jeez, where do you work? This week,our office has been on a par with most days we saw late November.

Ren Hoëk · Post by **Ren Hoëk** » 06 Mar 2020, 05:39

Our grief is not with the customer it is with the RM. The aim is not to punish the customers its to focus the minds of our leadership. The very fact that our customers could quite easily use another currier should be enough to get management around the table and stop this madness. Once they go, will they come back? If the strike is sustained the chances of them ever coming back diminishes.

smok3y666 · Post by **smok3y666** » 06 Mar 2020, 09:47

ted_e_bear wrote:Interesting post in that you've answered your own question in the post,the threat of strike action could possibly prompt parcel sending customers to go elsewhere which is obviously not what RM want.
As far as the people who only receive a few letters a week not noticing that we're on strike, RM don't care as that's the business that they don't want.

But then on the flip side of that if people go elsewhere to send parcels and then they're happy sending their parcels thru a new courier which will also probably be cheaper then they'll stick with said new courier thus reducing parcels sent thru RM which could lead to job losses. I voted "Yes" btw before you send the mob out.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 06 Mar 2020, 10:14

Ren Hoëk wrote:If the strike is sustained the chances of them ever coming back diminishes.

And who is that going to hurt the most?
Rico? Who we are continually told has no attachment to this great institution and probably won't stay for long anyway.
Or the people who rely on this job to pay their mortgage and feed their kids? (And for some on a 25 hour contract it doesn't even do that)

Is the new mantra - let's lose work to save our jobs? (Doublethink at its purest)

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 06 Mar 2020, 10:53

clashcityrocker wrote:
Ren Hoëk wrote:If the strike is sustained the chances of them ever coming back diminishes.
And who is that going to hurt the most?
Rico? Who we are continually told has no attachment to this great institution and probably won't stay for long anyway.
Or the people who rely on this job to pay their mortgage and feed their kids? (And for some on a 25 hour contract it doesn't even do that)

Is the new mantra - let's lose work to save our jobs? (Doublethink at its purest)

It will reflect poorly on Rico. Not working with employees, purveying a false offer that's not even guaranteed, and not part of the dispute. And it will be HIM resoponsible for losing business...

billie2 · Post by **billie2** » 06 Mar 2020, 11:19

Problem is Rico is 66 years old all ready made his millions,he does'nt care about us just his targets and his ego to get his own way.
But if we dont strike we will never know,best we cant hope for is a watered down version of the management plans.

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