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Got absolutely roasted in the comments.

Basically nobody believes that RM aren't actively pursuing the idea of Monday - Friday letters for next year and nobody believes that Terry isn't aware of that and is playing fast and loose with the definition of "protecting" the USO.

A little more up front honesty would perhaps be a better direction to go.
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but we all know this will happen and is a massive money spinner for the company and it will come so i can not see the company defending a mon - sat letter delivery , and the union will be f****d to be blunt . TRUST comes to mind , :left:
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Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
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2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:07
Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
I don't think we would be.
I think it would be Tracked only Saturday and Sunday.
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2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:07
Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
Tracked and specials. If the USO was Monday to Friday they'd concentrate on the stuff they're bothered about. You wouldn't need alot of staff in covering the tracked and specials, maybe 1 covering 6 deliveries?
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:11
2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:07
Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
I don't think we would be.
I think it would be Tracked only Saturday and Sunday.
We have plenty of letterboxable tracked packets nowadays which will only grow,it doesnt make sense to drive to say 23,35,46,74 with these type of packets so you would walk it, while your walking it you might as well take the letters as well, and lets not forget d2ds would go to 1/6 to 1/5 costing more time on letter delivery days in prep alone.
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citypostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:20
2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:07
Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
Tracked and specials. If the USO was Monday to Friday they'd concentrate on the stuff they're bothered about. You wouldn't need alot of staff in covering the tracked and specials, maybe 1 covering 6 deliveries?
in your neck of the woods maybe citypostie, out here in the sticks we easily cover 60 miles a day on just 1 walk.
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wallan wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:24
Using LAT Offices ?
:left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: The same LAT offices that call us everyday to take the tracked for 'our area' that they cant cover?
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Again people are making the same mistake that everything would look/be the same as it does now.

Royal Mail could easily introduce a specific Saturday/Sunday Guaranteed Tracked service. It could possibly only be available on certain sizes but the real savings are obviously indoor and network/distribution.

D2D is a non issue because they're looking for it all to go in on a Monday anyway and warm called through the week.
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Mon-Fri is coming and his talk of fighting it would find very little support from those on the front line. When did Terry last work a Saturday on a regular basis?
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2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:07
Honestly cant see what they would gain out of dropping Sat letters if we are still delivering small packets and parcels?
they would gain by getting rid of all or some of the day off covers as the regulars would just work monday - friday , and the ones that are still there will just delivery specials , parcels on a saturday and that is a massive head count and saving for royal mail, and then the crumbling workers union will say it was out of our hands .
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:47
Again people are making the same mistake that everything would look/be the same as it does now.

Royal Mail could easily introduce a specific Saturday/Sunday Guaranteed Tracked service. It could possibly only be available on certain sizes but the real savings are obviously indoor and network/distribution.

D2D is a non issue because they're looking for it all to go in on a Monday anyway and warm called through the week.
there biggest saving would be the delivery and outdoor work and day off cover staff , and dont have a chance of getting all d2ds in on a monday with over 1000 calls on a delivery all double slots :thumbup
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2yearpostie wrote:
27 Jul 2021, 19:21
it doesnt make sense to drive to say 23,35,46,74 with these type of packets so you would walk it
You would be daft to walk it. Driving and doing both sides of the road as you go is what u should be doing.